sackofspuds wrote:A bit off-topic but I find the multitude of distros and desktop managers rather depressing. Just strikes me as making it less likely that Linux desktop gains market share. Also emphasises how Linux desktop is more of an enthusiast's OS than a commercial one.
michaelzap wrote:I'm actually coming at this with goals more like autocrosser's (so maybe you'll have some tips for me). I think that I'm ready to try Gnome Shell on my main production machine, but I want to run it on LMDE. I have a separate Fedora partition on which I've been testing and tweaking Gnome Shell to my liking, but I want a Debian system (and I really like the new updating method in LMDE).
A while back I got Gnome Shell running on Debian using the experimental repos, but it wasn't stable enough to use for work. I see now that the experimental repos have much more up-to-date Gnome 3 packages than they did then. I don't want to risk borking my main system constantly, especially since I'll be running it on an encrypted partition and that always makes repair and recovery more difficult.
I'm also psyched to try Gnome 3.2 when it comes out, but I expect that I'll need to be patient and wait for the packages to trickle into Debian again.
Right now I'm running XFCE on my main system, and it's a perfectly good workhorse. But I miss Gnome a bit, and I keep checking to see when I can run Gnome Shell reliably in Debian. Maybe that time is now?
I hope that in the near future the Mint devs switch to a customized Gnome Shell release because they'd probably improve it quite a bit (and personally that's what I want to use). It is a fairly major UI change, but it's a lot more extensible than some people realize and I easily changed the things that didn't work for me and adapted it to my liking. I tried using a traditional task bar and launcher for a while, and while I had no problems with it I actually found that I liked the Gnome Shell way better once I got used to it so I removed them.
sackofspuds wrote:However, I am disappointed with the recent fragmentation in terms of desktop manager. I know it's all meant to be about choice but this fragmentation can only slow the adoption of Linux on the desktop. So much wasted time!
sackofspuds wrote:Linux desktop is more of an enthusiast's OS than a commercial one.
autocrosser wrote:There are many people running Shell now
Well, there are many idiots... (sorry )
linuxviolin wrote:autocrosser wrote:There are many people running Shell now
Well, there are many idiots... (sorry )
DrHu wrote:the number of options available does tend to emphasize its enthusiasts' nature just as in the beginning of the micro revolution: S100 (original hobbyist micros), Apple, Commodore, Microsoft etc, when everyone was an enthusiast
DrHu wrote:Because Linux is not commercial, it is fairly unlikely that it would ever take market share away from commercial vendors, read Apple (now #1) and Microsoft and of course Google rapidly matching/surpassing or following..
autocrosser wrote:I must admit to being quite offended by your comment---I do not call you a "Idiot" & I do request you not call me one because My choice of Desktop is not fitting your sensibilities.
I had thought that civil discourse was what is requested on this forum. I have been involved with Gnome-Shell development for almost 3 years now & am fairly happy with it...Maybe you should "really" try it before making judgment.
monkeyboy wrote:If you repeatedly get called on something ,like insulting people then it becomes an obvious and conscious choice and trying to hide behind the excuse of its a joke doesn’t cut it. Those emoticons just aren’t that big.
monkeyboy wrote:So, if I am convinced you are a troll then its alright to call you one? I can ignore "civil discourse" and go with my opinion. Does it mean you won't go and whine to the mods about it or launch a whining rant about being called a troll? If so I support of your decision to ignore "civil discourse".
monkeyboy wrote:No, you are intelligent enough to make conscious choices and should be willing accept the results.
samriggs wrote:no one is an idiot
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