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How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby dxxvi on Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:11 pm

I went to the sourceforge.net project page of jupiter (http://sourceforge.net/projects/jupiter/files/), downloaded the .deb file, installed it with dpkg, then run apt-get -f install to install all the dependencies and nothing happened.
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby colyn on Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:15 pm

When you say nothing happened did it not show install progress or can you not find how to launch the program after installation??
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby Oscar799 on Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:00 am

I moved this here from Software & Applications
It is a better home for it
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby pghjake on Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:10 am

Maybe it needs a KMS kernel for mode setting?
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby darethehair on Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:30 pm

OK, this is as good a place as any for posting my own info on this topic...

When I first read about 'eee-control' (http://greg.geekmind.org/eee-control/), I was eager to try it on my 'new' Asus MK90H 'Disney' netbook under LMDE, and noted that:

- no package for it seemed to exist in the repositories
- attempting to force the install of the 'deb' on that page threatened to do all sorts of nasty thing

...so when I was about to give up, I ran across the reference to 'jupiter':

http://www.fewt.com/2010/02/meet-jupiter.html

Great!

- I got the latest 'deb' from http://sourceforge.net/projects/jupiter/
- for dependencies I had to also install 'libnotify-bin' and 'xinput'
- no 'lightning bolt' tray icon occured until I rebooted, but then it showed up and worked just fine

The 'Geekbench' utility confirmed that switching between the various 'Performance Modes' did have an effect on performance and battery life :)

Using the 'Screen Orientation' options was neat to rotate the screen, but the touchpad was out-of-sync with the same orientation, so it was frustrating to use until I found this reference to a 'patched' synaptic touchpad driver:

http://forum.eeebuntu.org/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=5797

...so I downloaded/installed the mentioned pre-packaged 'deb' file and now the touchpad automatically rotates along with Jupiter!

I then wanted some of the other Fn keys to work properly, so I found this help in describing what needed to be done to the grub boot options:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466802

Basically, the trick is to add 'acpi_osi=Linux' to the grub boot command.
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby fewt on Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:00 pm

Awesome, glad to hear that Jupiter works on Mint Debian Edition. I have been meaning to install LMDE so I can test and officially support Jupiter on it, but I haven't had time yet to do so. I decided this afternoon that I would fish around to see if people would actually use it before I put the level of effort into it needed to fully support it, I set up a poll over at ~/Forum to see what people think.
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby darethehair on Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:45 am

fewt wrote:Awesome, glad to hear that Jupiter works on Mint Debian Edition.


I am honored to get the attention of the author of 'Jupiter'! :)

Certainly, I encourage you to try Mint Debian yourself, as well as to support your app on that distro. It would be great if a proper package would end up in the repos, so that automatic dependency resolution would occur. Also, to make it easier/clearer for how to get/install that patched 'synaptics' touchpad driver for synced touchpad/screen rotation (I was quite nervous to do that on my freshly-setup netbook, but it worked great). Is this 'patched' version going to become part of the 'official' package so that no one needs to hunt for it in the future?

One thing that I was wondering about is 'fan control' -- is that something that Jupiter could do as well? My little netbook seems to run its fan a lot...
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby fewt on Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:51 am

darethehair wrote:
fewt wrote:Awesome, glad to hear that Jupiter works on Mint Debian Edition.


I am honored to get the attention of the author of 'Jupiter'! :)

Certainly, I encourage you to try Mint Debian yourself, as well as to support your app on that distro. It would be great if a proper package would end up in the repos, so that automatic dependency resolution would occur. Also, to make it easier/clearer for how to get/install that patched 'synaptics' touchpad driver for synced touchpad/screen rotation (I was quite nervous to do that on my freshly-setup netbook, but it worked great). Is this 'patched' version going to become part of the 'official' package so that no one needs to hunt for it in the future?

One thing that I was wondering about is 'fan control' -- is that something that Jupiter could do as well? My little netbook seems to run its fan a lot...


The patched synaptics driver is in the Aurora repo, and supported there. I won't be doing anything with fan control, no. I did when I supported Eee PC Utilities, but it was problematic due to bugs in the kernel module so I pulled it out when I started working on Jupiter.

As for LMDE, there haven't been many votes of support yet so I'm not sure that it's worth the effort since it already seems to work OK for you.
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby darethehair on Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:12 am

fewt wrote:As for LMDE, there haven't been many votes of support yet so I'm not sure that it's worth the effort since it already seems to work OK for you.


Well, LMDE is a very new distro, and I think that as more folks install it onto their note/netbooks that they will begin looking for apps like Jupiter, and then (hopefully) they will find it (or stumble on this thread). I only had one small glitch when I first started using it that did not occur again. It would be great if others would confirm my impression that everything works fine, or that they would report bugs -- in which case you would fix them :)

EDIT: Hmmm...I just read that Aurora Linux is *also* based on Debian, so it makes me wonder if it would be useful (and safe) to add the Aurora repositories to our LMDE systems? At the very least, it would make it easier to install Jupiter and the patched synaptics touchpad package.
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby fewt on Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:43 am

darethehair wrote:
fewt wrote:As for LMDE, there haven't been many votes of support yet so I'm not sure that it's worth the effort since it already seems to work OK for you.


Well, LMDE is a very new distro, and I think that as more folks install it onto their note/netbooks that they will begin looking for apps like Jupiter, and then (hopefully) they will find it (or stumble on this thread). I only had one small glitch when I first started using it that did not occur again. It would be great if others would confirm my impression that everything works fine, or that they would report bugs -- in which case you would fix them :)


Sounds like it works OK now, but at this point I'm probably not going to go out of my way to support it. I would have to maintain a debian mint install, and build or port my test suite to it and test it every time I build. It doesn't seem worth while right now. Maybe when Debian Mint becomes more popular. :D

darethehair wrote:EDIT: Hmmm...I just read that Aurora Linux is *also* based on Debian, so it makes me wonder if it would be useful (and safe) to add the Aurora repositories to our LMDE systems? At the very least, it would make it easier to install Jupiter and the patched synaptics touchpad package.


I wouldn't recommend it, as it could alter packages that aren't completely compatible with LMDE.
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby kuhitsu on Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:28 am

I thought I wrote a thingie here.. hmm

Anyhow. I need a step by step - How To install Jupiter and make it work in LMDE in eee1005ha.

please yes?

because I really feel it would make a difference and I've tried what's written here with no luck
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby darethehair on Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:13 am

[quote="kuhitsu"I need a step by step - How To install Jupiter and make it work in LMDE in eee1005ha.[/quote]

Well, I think everything you need is in the post I made above:

http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=54973#p320251

I know nothing special about 'debian'. What I know (which is not that much) applies to get fooling around in the Linux world for a long time. When I used 'Redhat', I did 'yum' a lot, but now that I have jumped to the 'Ubuntu/Debian' world, I use 'apt-get' and 'dpkg' a lot instead...

If you have trouble on the command line, I won't be the best to help you. I use a combination of GUI (mouse clicks) and CLI (command line) for all of my linux stuff -- whatever is easier and more convenient at the time, but here is an *attempt* to help you (all bets are off if this doesn't work for you!):

1) Install the 'libnotify-bin' and 'xinput' binaries if you don't already have them:

use the GUI software installers to get them, or on the command line:

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sudo apt-get install libnotify-bin xinput


2) Navigate to the web page http://sourceforge.net/projects/jupiter/ and click on File released: '/jupiter_0.0.42_all.deb' and proceed to install 'jupiter', or on the command line you could try to 'wget' it, and then install it with 'dpkg':

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sudo wget http://sourceforge.net/projects/jupiter/files/jupiter_0.0.42_all.deb
sudo dpkg -i jupiter_0.0.42_all.deb


3) To get the 'patched' synaptics touchpad rotate stuff, it is a bit trickier, since you have to go to one of those 'free but delayed download' websites to get it i.e. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NA5O8PP0. Yes, I wish there was a 'normal' site to get that version (EDIT: 'fewt' suggested an alternative location to get this, and so you can try doing the 'wget' method I added below, or click on the link to the 'deb' file) . Once you have it, install it with a GUI, or again use 'dpkg' on the command line:

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sudo wget http://jupiter.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/jupiter/add-ons/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-1.2.2/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1.2.2-2_i386.deb

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sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1.2.2-2_i386.deb


4) I have no idea of function keys on your EEE, so I don't know if you need help on changing the 'grub2' boot settings.
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby fewt on Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:38 am

darethehair wrote:3) To get the 'patched' synaptics touchpad rotate stuff, it is a bit trickier, since you have to go to one of those 'free but delayed download' websites to get it i.e. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NA5O8PP0. Yes, I wish there was a 'normal' site to get that version. Once you have it, install it with a GUI, or again use 'dpkg' on the command line:

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sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1.2.2-2_i386.deb



You may be able to use this package.

http://jupiter.svn.sourceforge.net/view ... ics-1.2.2/
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby darethehair on Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:38 pm

fewt wrote:You may be able to use this package.

http://jupiter.svn.sourceforge.net/view ... ics-1.2.2/


Thanks for the alternative! The byte count is not *exactly* the same as the other/original one, but if it is actually on the 'jupiter' pages then I would guess that it should work just as well :)
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby kuhitsu on Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:56 am

thanks darethehair and fewt

now it just works :D
I'm thinking next to learn how to speed boot time, yet I'm not sure do i need it :D but man's gotta educating him self.

only bad thingie here now is, that I'm no sure do I want to install Fuduntu in mi eee ;) but maybe I still test it soon... I've always kind of liked fedora system, earlier it just didn't fit in my need's.

OK.. just hit a new problem. when I restarted this machina, the touchbad was off. totally. no life there... took a while before it started to work. don't know will it start work in time or because I hit usb-mouse in... I hate normal mouse, I'm trained to use touchbad.
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby newfie on Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:58 pm

Jupiter works great for me on LMDE (I discovered it on Linsux's Fuduntu thread while lurking) apart from a couple of minor issues. I didn't notice much difference using the power save option, though :(
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Re: How to install Jupiter on LMDE?

Postby fewt on Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:53 pm

newfie wrote:Jupiter works great for me on LMDE (I discovered it on Linsux's Fuduntu thread while lurking) apart from a couple of minor issues. I didn't notice much difference using the power save option, though :(


Ahh yes, the thread that started it all. :D I still think it would be lols to create a linsux memes RPM, I might do it.
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