What to do once squeeze goes stable?

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What you gonna do once freeze is over?

Will change to squeeze repo and will stick with it for a long time.
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15%
Will stick with testing even in the beginning of the unfreeze.
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56%
Will stay on squeeze for a while until wheezy gets a little more stable.
8
15%
Other.
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13%
 
Total votes : 52

What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby ShexNivis on Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:45 pm

Hello there,
The Debian project is proud to announce, that its upcoming release Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" has entered the final phase of its development cycle and is nearly in its final form.

http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20101116b

Just want to know what everybody is gonna do, so that newbies like myself can make a decision.
Also I would love the hear why you making that choice.
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby gotjazz on Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:01 am

i'll stick with testing. For one sid seems to be pretty stable too nowadays so there's not too much to fear I guess and also hey - separate home and all. it's not too much of a hassle should anything acutally break - which I doubt.

Also - but I haven't been following this recently - wasn't debian going to implement a cut (continuously usable testing iirc) policy?
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby azathoth on Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:17 am

Yeah, I just finished the first major Sid DU in a few weeks and it went really well.(384MB altogether). I haven't had a single prob with sid yet (knock on wood lol). Plus even if something does break it gets fixed a lot faster with sid.
@ShexNivis: If you want to go Squeeze you should set your repos before Squeeze goes stable next month otherwise the testing packages could break it.
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby k3lt01 on Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:32 am

I'm running LMDE on testing, Squeeze on Squeeze, Squeeze on testing, and Sid. I haven't really had anything happen that shouldn't on any of them. I'm going to keep testing each one as they are. I have 1 /home with different profiles so I can easily access my personal data from any OS.
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby ShexNivis on Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:40 am

If I change repo to squeeze now can I change back to testing after squeeze goes stable?
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby tdockery97 on Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:52 am

gotjazz wrote:i'll stick with testing. For one sid seems to be pretty stable too nowadays so there's not too much to fear I guess and also hey - separate home and all. it's not too much of a hassle should anything acutally break - which I doubt.

Also - but I haven't been following this recently - wasn't debian going to implement a cut (continuously usable testing iirc) policy?

Yeah, I think they have that now. They do a weekly updated Testing iso for KDE, Gnome, XFCE.
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby det4100 on Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:31 am

I'm getting a little confused now. I've been running LMDE on a test machine for a few months now. With the exception of a small video problem after an earlier update and Giver not working correctly, it has been running flawlessly. Now, after reading all of these posts of what to do and when to do it when Squeeze goes stable, I'm sorta lost. What happens to MY LMDE if I do nothing except continue to install all of the updates (1 through 5) in MintUpdate? Currently I have the following items checked in Software Sources:
Main packages
Upstream packages
Imported packages
Backport packages
Unstable packages (romeo)
Source code

Third-Party Software

Debian testing (Officially supported)
security.debian.org/testing/updates (main conrib non-free)
http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing (main non-free)

If I leave these items alone, will my system roll over to the next testing version of Debian? (With the minty flavor I now enjoy) Or, will it turn my system to Squeeze Stable and just receive security updates and such until Squeeze is no long supported?
Also, with my current list of software sources, does anyone see a conflict that may break my system if indeed my system will roll over to the next version?
Sorry for the confusion, but I've read so many posts now on this subject that I'm not sure what I should do when Squeeze goes stable, if anything. My goal would to have it rollover to the next version without too much breakage. :)

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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby Carl on Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:44 am

you would continue to receive updates of the testing branch of debian which in itself is usually (so I'm led to believe) is quite stable with the same minty flavour
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby Nottyl on Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:56 pm

tdockery97 wrote:
gotjazz wrote:i'll stick with testing. For one sid seems to be pretty stable too nowadays so there's not too much to fear I guess and also hey - separate home and all. it's not too much of a hassle should anything acutally break - which I doubt.

Also - but I haven't been following this recently - wasn't debian going to implement a cut (continuously usable testing iirc) policy?

Yeah, I think they have that now. They do a weekly updated Testing iso for KDE, Gnome, XFCE.


I am unable to find any CUT isos. Would you mind linking to it? Thanks.
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby gotjazz on Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:05 pm

well if i understood that correctly (and if it's already in effect) it should affect testing in gerneal so there'd be no specific iso for it.
Bear in mind though, that I am really as uninformed as I say I am so this whole thing might just've been an idea that was floating around a couple of months ago after which nothing ever really happened. I didn't really care so much back then because testing appears to be stable enough for me anyway.
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby msuggs on Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:36 pm

ShexNivis wrote:If I change repo to squeeze now can I change back to testing after squeeze goes stable?

Leave your repos on testing. Squeeze and testing are the same thing. They both point towards the same repos.
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby Serendipity on Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:40 pm

The thing that attracted me to Linux years ago was the problem solving aspects of the os. That has been diminished as Linux gets more polished, so I find myseIf somewhat bored with most of the prominent systems, I have been using LMDE as my daily driver since September with only a few glitches which were easily fixed, but which kept me entertained.. I just downloaded LM 10 on another partition so I can have a stable system for work and LMDE for fun.
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby ShexNivis on Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:46 pm

omns wrote:
ShexNivis wrote:If I change repo to squeeze now can I change back to testing after squeeze goes stable?

Leave your repos on testing. Squeeze and testing are the same thing. They both point towards the same repos.


I meant If I change to squeeze it wont get updated to next testing when freeze is over, so I could wait a while until things cool down then change back to testing.
Is that possible?
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby ShexNivis on Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:47 pm

gotjazz wrote:well if i understood that correctly (and if it's already in effect) it should affect testing in gerneal so there'd be no specific iso for it.
Bear in mind though, that I am really as uninformed as I say I am so this whole thing might just've been an idea that was floating around a couple of months ago after which nothing ever really happened. I didn't really care so much back then because testing appears to be stable enough for me anyway.


As far as I read its only a discussion(http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=56027)
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby k3lt01 on Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:20 pm

ShexNivis wrote:
omns wrote:
ShexNivis wrote:If I change repo to squeeze now can I change back to testing after squeeze goes stable?

Leave your repos on testing. Squeeze and testing are the same thing. They both point towards the same repos.


I meant If I change to squeeze it wont get updated to next testing when freeze is over, so I could wait a while until things cool down then change back to testing.
Is that possible?
Yes it is possible. My Sid install is fine and testing will only get Sid material so nothing major should happen when testing becomes wheezy. Although having said that there is always the risk so if you are more comfortable playing it safe then by all mean do so.
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby det4100 on Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:44 am

Carl wrote:you would continue to receive updates of the testing branch of debian which in itself is usually (so I'm led to believe) is quite stable with the same minty flavour


Thanks Carl. That is what I was hoping for.
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby msuggs on Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:07 pm

Personally I would stick with Squeeze but I'd imagine a vast majority will stick with testing as development will focus on maintaining that more effectively. Alternatively you could look at a distro that will stick with Squeeze once released. Something like CrunchBang comes to mind in that scenario.
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby asymmetros on Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:10 pm

My though is to go on with Testing. But i have a separate partition (Debian Squeeze) as my backup in case that something goes very wrong.
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby guimaster on Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:16 pm

Hello everyone,

I don't really understand all of the "Squeeze" to "Testing" Switcherooing that is being recommended in this thread and elsewhere. After installing LMDE, I promptly switched my repositories from "Testing" to "Stable" and I had about 8 updates to install. I did this after having a Google at the path packages follow on their way to a new release. This is my understanding of the path Debian packages travel:

"Unstable" -> "Testing" -> "Stable" -> Final Release (Currently Squeeze).

Wouldn't being in "Stable" give the exact same result as switching back and forth from "Squeeze" to "Testing?" My system is working wonderfully by the way...
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Re: What to do once squeeze goes stable?

Postby gotjazz on Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:51 pm

nope - "stable" is currently still lenny. squeeze is testing now and will be stable in a month or so.
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