no Mint Menu in LM12?

no Mint Menu in LM12?

Postby farna on Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:59 pm

So the only way to get a functional Mint Menu is to log out and log into MATE? Why? I can understand some of the Mint Menu functions are no longer necessary with the new Gnome 3, but some things I can't figure out how to do! How do I change the items in my favorites list? How do I put something on the desktop (I usually put the things I use the most on desktop, not the fav list)? Easy to do in the Mint Menu, which is the main reason I liked Mint so much in the first place -- made many things easy and intuitive.

I do like the new look of Gnome 3, don't want to use MATE -- may as well have stayed with Mint 11. Is there an EASY way (preferably in the GUI) to add icons to the desktop? You know, like right click in the Mint Menu and click "Add to Desktop"... What about changing the favorites list? Am I going to have to edit a file somewhere? These basic tasks should be easy for any computer user, even someone not real versed in Linux (like me!).

I chose Mint because of the ease of use -- ready to replace Windows! The menu really made things much easier in Mint than Windows ever has been. Now it's screwed up, unless I want to go back to the old way only...
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Re: no Mint Menu in LM12?

Postby Aethyr on Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:58 pm

farna wrote:So the only way to get a functional Mint Menu is to log out and log into MATE? Why? I can understand some of the Mint Menu functions are no longer necessary with the new Gnome 3, but some things I can't figure out how to do! How do I change the items in my favorites list? How do I put something on the desktop (I usually put the things I use the most on desktop, not the fav list)? Easy to do in the Mint Menu, which is the main reason I liked Mint so much in the first place -- made many things easy and intuitive.

I do like the new look of Gnome 3, don't want to use MATE -- may as well have stayed with Mint 11. Is there an EASY way (preferably in the GUI) to add icons to the desktop? You know, like right click in the Mint Menu and click "Add to Desktop"... What about changing the favorites list? Am I going to have to edit a file somewhere? These basic tasks should be easy for any computer user, even someone not real versed in Linux (like me!).

I chose Mint because of the ease of use -- ready to replace Windows! The menu really made things much easier in Mint than Windows ever has been. Now it's screwed up, unless I want to go back to the old way only...


Welcome to the unholy mess that is GNOME Shell. You should be prepared to smash multiple keyboards/screens in frustration over what is currently the worst available desktop environment in the world.

I can understand your confusion, as simple tasks that used to take 0.5 nanoseconds in GNOME 2 are hidden away and can take entire minutes to be done in this god-forsaken environment. So:

To add an item to your favorites: open the application, go to overview mode, right click on the app's icon on the Shell's application-manager-wannabe part (left side of the screen), click Add to favorites.

To add an item to your desktop, you first need to make sure that your desktop is managed by the file manager, since the GNOME team decided that we are all afflicted with down syndrome and removed desktop management by default to simplify our lives in a huge act of kindness. You can check this by opening your advanced settings, it's on the first tab. Then navigate your way to the desktop folder in nautilus, and manually create your items there.

Alternatively, you can help humanity by not using GNOME Shell - if it flunks, MAYBE we might get a workable environment sometime. Moreover, every time you log in the Shell, God kills a newborn kitten. Surely you don't want that on your conscience.
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Re: no Mint Menu in LM12?

Postby Oscar799 on Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:59 pm

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Re: no Mint Menu in LM12?

Postby Monsta on Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:17 am

:mrgreen:

Someone's gotta start making the Angry Gnome Shell Nerd series. You know, like Angry Video Game Nerd, but about Gnome 3. No, seriously. This DE seems to be an inexhaustible source of rage.
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Re: no Mint Menu in LM12?

Postby eightup1 on Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:03 am

what are you talking about gnome 3 is awesome , it's slower buggier more difficult to use it completely takes away the ability for me to easily customize it to the way i want it they removed that bothersome ability to right click for options , why it's everything i NEVER wanted in an OS :D
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Re: no Mint Menu in LM12?

Postby dalcde on Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:29 am

You can have the mintMenu in LM12 by using the mate panel instead of MGSE panel (add mate-panel to startup applications and disable bottom bar GNOME extension)
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Re: no Mint Menu in LM12?

Postby farna on Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:03 pm

I do like the more "advanced" look and feel of the new Gnome 3 shell. If they hadn't taken away all the easy to do things it would be fine! Looks like I'm going to simply switch to MATE and forget Gnome 3, and try Cinnamon in a bit. I agree with some of the other comments about Gnome 3. if I wanted the computer to dictate how I used it instead of being able to EASILY customize it and not have some previously simple tasks hidden from me (as if I'm an idiot!), why I'd have just bought another copy of Windows 7!! My wife uses it at work and wanted something similar that she could also buy simple games for over the counter (the popular graphic search and finds, mainly). Otherwise she'd be running Linux too! I get frustrated trying to make simple mods with her system, don't want that same problem with Linux!!
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