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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby shawnhcorey on Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:22 pm

tux-sven wrote:1. CPU usage too high, which makes other programs perform too slow. Steaming video is hacking) (Compiz activated)


When I first install LinuxMint 12, my CPU usage was very high because it was doing all my graphics. When I installed my System -> Preferences -> Additional Drivers for my graphics card, CPU usage dropped to almost nothing. Have you tried installing additional drivers yet?
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby tux-sven on Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:32 am

I have an intel chipset, so there are no drivers to add. I also run LMDE with Compiz on the same computer, which works fine with low CPU usage. But thanks anyway. :wink:
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby YouTu_01 on Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:51 pm

How hard would it be to add the nautilus-elementary source to caja?
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby fireflyphil on Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:59 am

Hello!

I'm new here but using Mint 12 with MATE and liking it - thanks! Just two niggles:
1. How can I get the update status icon to show in the panel all the time? Note: if you install it from menu, it just shows on the left, without the tick or 'i' symbol.
2. I have installed Cairo-clock, but can't launch it because it doesn't show in the menu. Help/ideas welcome.

If these points have already been addressed, I apologise, but in that case, I should be grateful if someone could direct me to the posts. Thanks, all of you.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby shawnhcorey on Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:23 am

fireflyphil wrote:1. How can I get the update status icon to show in the panel all the time? Note: if you install it from menu, it just shows on the left, without the tick or 'i' symbol.


Wait for it. The update daemon takes a while before it shows its status. It should appear in about one minute.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby Suchy on Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:15 am

Hello. I love MATE but I have no idea how to get battery status icon in my taskbar and how to make brightness/sound keys working on my notebook (they work perfectly with Gnome Shell). Thanks in Advance.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby stefano-k on Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:45 am

Suchy wrote:Hello. I love MATE but I have no idea how to get battery status icon in my taskbar and how to make brightness/sound keys working on my notebook (they work perfectly with Gnome Shell). Thanks in Advance.


battery status: install mate-power-manager

brightness/sound keys: we are working to solve this issue.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby perberos on Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:35 pm

YouTu_01 wrote:How hard would it be to add the nautilus-elementary source to caja?

https://github.com/perberos/Mate-Deskto ... /issues/59
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby Suchy on Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:24 pm

stefano-k wrote:
Suchy wrote:Hello. I love MATE but I have no idea how to get battery status icon in my taskbar and how to make brightness/sound keys working on my notebook (they work perfectly with Gnome Shell). Thanks in Advance.


battery status: install mate-power-manager

brightness/sound keys: we are working to solve this issue.

Thanks for reply but this package is not present for me. What should I do to have it present? I am new linux user so sorry if this question is dumb.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby wayne128 on Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:41 pm

Suchy wrote:
stefano-k wrote:
Suchy wrote:Hello. I love MATE but I have no idea how to get battery status icon in my taskbar and how to make brightness/sound keys working on my notebook (they work perfectly with Gnome Shell). Thanks in Advance.


battery status: install mate-power-manager

brightness/sound keys: we are working to solve this issue.

Thanks for reply but this package is not present for me. What should I do to have it present? I am new linux user so sorry if this question is dumb.



I have changed to Mate's latest repos as in this post
viewtopic.php?f=198&t=87728&p=513375#p512704

here is the version available
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lmde32g wayne # apt-cache policy mate-power-manager
mate-power-manager:
  Installed: 1.1.0-1
  Candidate: 1.1.0-1
  Version table:
 *** 1.1.0-1 0
        500 http://tridex.net/repo/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby Suchy on Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:56 am

but there's no gpg key and it doesn't allow me to install anything from this repo
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby kmb42vt on Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:50 am

Suchy wrote:but there's no gpg key and it doesn't allow me to install anything from this repo


After you add the repo to your sources bring up the terminal and run the following command\;

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sudo apt-get install mate-archive-keyring


The above is found on the following post on the new MATE blog (MATE's info is not very organized as yet it seems but it's still very young yet):

http://blog.karapetsas.com/index.php?id=2

One word of caution though. The MATE packages that come with Linux Mint 12 come through Mint's repositories, not directly from MATE's Tridex repos and I have found that attempting to install any package from MATE's Tridex repos tries to remove key components of LM 12's MATE DE. It also appears that the MATE DE included with Linux Mint 12 is not directly upgradable from the Tridex repos. For example, with the Tridex repos enabled Caja "installed" version is 1.0.x and MATE's Tridex repo version is 1.1.x but LM 12's Caja (in Synaptic) shows no upgrade available. Same with other LM 12 MATE packages. It looks like LM 12's version of MATE and MATE's latest version are two different animals entirely and are not compatible. Either you have Linux Mint 12's version installed or MATE's latest version.

Any thoughts on this?
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby stefano-k on Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:32 pm

kmb42vt wrote:One word of caution though. The MATE packages that come with Linux Mint 12 come through Mint's repositories, not directly from MATE's Tridex repos and I have found that attempting to install any package from MATE's Tridex repos tries to remove key components of LM 12's MATE DE. It also appears that the MATE DE included with Linux Mint 12 is not directly upgradable from the Tridex repos. For example, with the Tridex repos enabled Caja "installed" version is 1.0.x and MATE's Tridex repo version is 1.1.x but LM 12's Caja (in Synaptic) shows no upgrade available. Same with other LM 12 MATE packages. It looks like LM 12's version of MATE and MATE's latest version are two different animals entirely and are not compatible. Either you have Linux Mint 12's version installed or MATE's latest version.

Any thoughts on this?


Hi. I can confirm that packages of both repositories are full compatible. Packages in tridex are the experimental versions, once well tested they will go in mint repository.
In synaptic you dont see upgrades because mint set his own repository as priority. You need to edit your /etc/apt/preferences file to upgrade from tridex.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby kmb42vt on Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:18 pm

stefano-k wrote:
kmb42vt wrote:One word of caution though. The MATE packages that come with Linux Mint 12 come through Mint's repositories, not directly from MATE's Tridex repos and I have found that attempting to install any package from MATE's Tridex repos tries to remove key components of LM 12's MATE DE. It also appears that the MATE DE included with Linux Mint 12 is not directly upgradable from the Tridex repos. For example, with the Tridex repos enabled Caja "installed" version is 1.0.x and MATE's Tridex repo version is 1.1.x but LM 12's Caja (in Synaptic) shows no upgrade available. Same with other LM 12 MATE packages. It looks like LM 12's version of MATE and MATE's latest version are two different animals entirely and are not compatible. Either you have Linux Mint 12's version installed or MATE's latest version.

Any thoughts on this?


Hi. I can confirm that packages of both repositories are full compatible. Packages in tridex are the experimental versions, once well tested they will go in mint repository.
In synaptic you dont see upgrades because mint set his own repository as priority. You need to edit your /etc/apt/preferences file to upgrade from tridex.


Hi stefano-k - Thanks for the information. I completely forgot about editing /etc/apt/preferences.And I didn't realize that Tridex was experimental. Must be getting old or something. :D
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby Kimiko_0 on Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:21 pm

Thanks for the repository, Stefano. I was wondering how long it would take for Mint to update the Mate packages, but now I don't have to wait.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby AstroGeek on Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:55 pm

I've added the Tridex repository to Synaptic, but I still can't find some of the packages. For instance, I can't find the one that allows you to open a location in the terminal from Caja. I haven't done anything with the /etc/apt/preferences yet, because I'm fairly new to Linux and don't know what I'd be doing there. And I really don't want to mess anything up.

Also, I tried to upgrade some of the packages (mate-appletts, mate-power-manager, mate-screensaver and mate-system-monitor) but Synaptic kept giving me a list of packages to be removed and then saying that some packages have unresolvable dependencies. HELP!!
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby nidwow on Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:50 pm

How do I set up the suspend while in MATE? In Gnome Shell suspend is right on cue. Not sure how to setup in MATE, I could not find GUI for power anywhere 8). In MATE my monitors are blank but it doesn't go into power saved mode.

Perhaps I am blind. The only way I can get MATE to suspend is to Menu > Quit and hit suspend button :mrgreen:
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby AstroGeek on Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:21 pm

nidwow wrote:How do I set up the suspend while in MATE? In Gnome Shell suspend is right on cue. Not sure how to setup in MATE, I could not find GUI for power anywhere 8). In MATE my monitors are blank but it doesn't go into power saved mode.

Perhaps I am blind. The only way I can get MATE to suspend is to Menu > Quit and hit suspend button :mrgreen:

Install either the mate power manager (package mate-power-manager), which may or may not work for you--I've been have problems with some dependencies--or the xfce4 power manager (package xfce4-power-manager) which is compatable with MATE. From the power manager options you can set up the conditions under which your computer goes to sleep or into hibernation.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby Kimiko_0 on Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:30 pm

AstroGeek - Those dependency troubles you got are caused by Mint having its own repository pinned to a higher priority in /etc/apt/preferences. If you don't want to mess with the priorities (they can become a bit of a headache quickly), just give the file a different name so apt ignores its contents and you can easily restore it if necessary.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby stovenator on Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:41 pm

I added the Tridex repositories last week.

My /etc/apt/sources.list looks like this:
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deb http://tridex.net/repo/ubuntu/ oneiric main
deb-src http://tridex.net/repo/ubuntu/ oneiric main


My /etc/apt/preferences looks like this:
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Package: *
Pin: release o=linuxmint
Pin-Priority: 700

Package: *
Pin: origin packages.linuxmint.com
Pin-Priority: 700

Package: *
Pin: release o=Ubuntu
Pin-Priority: 500

Package: *
Pin: origin tridex.net
Pin-Priority: 700


After adding the keys and performing an "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" (I may have had to do a dist-upgrade, don't remember), I am now on the Tridex Mate packages.

I've had a couple small issues. Mint-Menu is no longer working with this, it errors immediately upon login.

Also, the new packages haven't fixed my multimedia volume keys (which is the main thing I was interested in getting fixed). It's possible either those patches didn't make it into the Tridex repo yet, or my previous attempts to fix the issue on my system have screwed up, or the patch hasn't quite fixed the issue completely.
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