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Mint 16 S3TC and steam [solved]

Postby bushblade on Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:34 am

Hi I am relatively new to Mint and thought I would try some games through steam, but I'm having a lot of trouble getting them to work.

I downloaded through Steam Dota 2 but the game is not working I click play and this is the error I get;
this applications requires either the GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc,
or GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1 + GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt3 +
GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt5 OpenGL extensions.Please install S3TC texture support.

Further searching found this: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/di ... tuguese#p1

I entered the code
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sudo apt-get install libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0

and
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 sudo apt-get install libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0:i386]]
in terminal after which the game sort of runs but very slow and jerky, not playable.
I have an AMD A8 quad core 3.6Ghz Processor with Radeon 7560D on board Graphics, 8gb RAM and 1Tb hard drive
I'm operating on Linux Mint 16 petra cinamon 64 bit.

I also tried downloading and installing the latest drivers from AMD which resulted in Mint crashing every time I booted and I had to reinstall mint from live CD.

I have contacted steam a few days ago but have had no response from them other than the automated email.

So I'm out of ideas now really, any help appreciated.
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby Booman on Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:48 pm

Sounds like two things are preventing you from playing games.
1. Drivers
2. 32-bit Libraries

I have also read many "bad" things and few "good" things about AMD drivers.
I'm guessing you are using a laptop correct?

There is a chance you may have to install older AMD drivers. I only use Nvidia, so it will be difficult for me to help you out.

32-bit libraries though can be downloaded very easily.
Use your Software Installer and look for ia32-libs

If its a desktop with enough space for a video card, then you are in luck...

I have a feeling its both. Once you get the 32-bit libraries installed try the game again.
If you are still getting errors, try installing an older version of AMD drivers. They have to install successfully.
Check the menu for "other drivers" and see if there are AMD drivers there.
If there is... those are probably the most stable for Mint 16.
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby bushblade on Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:56 pm

thanks for the reply.
It's a desktop pc.
bit scared of trying drivers again.
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby Booman on Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:04 pm

Perfect!
Yeah I've had nightmares with older Radeon cards and drivers on Fedora. I would have to reinstall over and over because I didn't know how to reset it.

But you are in luck! I highly recommend getting an Nvidia video card for your desktop.
It may require additional power so check the wattage required for the card.

Anyways, Nvidia has great drivers and I've had a lot of success with games.
Let me know if you need help selecting a card.

Even a used card could be better than that on-board AMD video.
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby bushblade on Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:19 pm

Oh that sucks, I've only just bought this computer and I'm out of cash.
It was sold as a gaming spec so really surprised it isn't up to it.
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby Booman on Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:40 pm

Where did you get it?
Maybe there is a video card besides the "onboard" graphics?
Does the video cable look like it plugs into the motherboard on the back?
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby bushblade on Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:45 pm

it's this one http://www.cclonline.com/product/101992 ... L-EL-BUZ3/ except it has 8 gb of ram.
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby Booman on Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:08 pm

Wow that title is very misleading. Granted integrated GPU/CPU combos have come a long way.
It should play some games, but its not going to play Half-Life 2, Amnesia, Counter-Strike:Source or DOTA2 at high resolutions.
You might get away with low resolutions, but wow, I'm shocked they had the nerve to call it a "Gaming PC"
Its a decent price for the whole package, but it should say "Potential Gaming PC"
Meaning, you have to spend another $100 for a video card.
Notice if you add Windows 7 Home its another $100? So you saved $100 by going with Linux, but without a decent video card, Wine is going to be difficult.

Notice on the Specifications page
Integrated Graphics Supported APU with integrated AMD RadeonT HD 8000/7000 series graphics:

That means its a small integrated chip on the motherboard.

Dedicated video cards are a separate card that has to be installed on the motherboard. Some video cards are as big as half the motherboard its-self.

There are still a lot of games that will run, but the AAA titles probably won't run in Wine or PlayOnLinux
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby bushblade on Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:19 pm

interesting. so would any graphics card be an improvement?
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby Booman on Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:20 pm

It really depends on your budget.
Older video cards will no longer get driver updates
Cheaper video card will have about the same performance as your motherboard chip.

I always recommend spending $100 or more
The better the video card the more games you can play.

What games are you looking to play?
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby bushblade on Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:23 pm

My old system (the motherboard input/output controller died) had a Nvidia geforce 7300GT 256MB DDR2 card. Would that be any improvement?

I do get confused as to which graphics cards are for gaming.

I didn't really get the computer for gaming, but I have gamed in the past and thought I would try seeing as I bought a computer that is supposed to be suitable for gaming. I got this one mainly for managing my website, editing photographs and graphics. I have a spare blank hard drive that I was considering putting windows xp on, I expect that would work with my system for games. All I played in the past was world of warcraft and age of empires on PC and a fair bit more on consoles.
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby Booman on Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:51 pm

Unfortunately that 7300 is too old to get updated drivers. Even in Windows as well.
Anything other than a GeForce 8800 or newer will really give you a hard time.
Even the 8800 is getting old as well.

So it just depends on specific games you want to play and your Budget.
Sadly there isn't much out there less than $100 that would play games like Skyrim, Far Cry 3, Crysis 3, Dishonored, Borderlands, etc.
I'm afraid you would be disappointed.

Your current setup can play older games like Battlefield 2, Unreal Tournament 4, RTS games, RPG's and probably perform decently.
But if you are an avid gamer, its just not enough.

Any Card on this list would probably perform well in modern games:
http://www.cclonline.com/category/430/PC-Components/Graphics-Cards/pricerange-50-100/
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby bushblade on Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:56 am

Booman wrote:Any Card on this list would probably perform well in modern games:
http://www.cclonline.com/category/430/PC-Components/Graphics-Cards/pricerange-50-100/


Even the AMD ones? That is confusing.

So it's nothing to do with the S3TC thing? I've seen other people through forum searches with similar and lower spec machines (on board graphics) playing games, just their solutions haven't worked for me. If I run system monitor while running DOTA 2 the computer really isn't working hard, it just doesn't make much sense to me that it would be down to the machine.

Out of interest I installed Ubuntu 12.0.4 on my spare hard drive and tried on that but I couldn't install steam error was missing lib files (downloaded from software manager).
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby bushblade on Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:55 am

Just to add, I'm not intending to to play through wine/play on linux, just the titles on steam with a linux release.
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby Booman on Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:20 am

bushblade wrote:Even the AMD ones? That is confusing.

oops, I didn't see AMD cards on that list. Sorry about that. Just stick with GeForce.
Are any of those close to your budget?

If you want to save money and try to push the limits of your onboard graphics... start with installing the 32-bit libraries (ia32libs)
Then try the game again.
If its still having OpenGL or video related errors, then I would focus on video drivers.
Feel free to post any logs/errors here.
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby bushblade on Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:23 pm

Hi, thanks again for replying.

I think I would like to try with my system. I contacted CCL today and asked them about it, they said they didn't know what to advise in regards to Linux but they know the machine runs games like Dota2 fine in windows, so they feel it's a software issue, which ,akes more sense to me.

Is that what I did with in terminal with;
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sudo apt-get install libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0


and
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sudo apt-get install libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0:i386
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby Booman on Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:14 pm

I scrolled to the bottom of that Steam post and saw that someone claimed it helped with Mint. But if you are still getting errors I still recommend downloading those 32-bit libraries. Almost all games are only 32-bit compatible and you are using a 64-bit Mint.
So without the libraries, most games won't play.
If you need help let me know.

After that, we will need help from someone who has more AMD driver experience.
I don't even have a way to test AMD drivers because I've only purchased GeForce cards for all of my PC's
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby bushblade on Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:41 pm

thanks. How do I get the 32 bit libraries?
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby clfarron4 on Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:46 pm

@Bushblade: Have you installed FGLRX from the additional drivers or installed AMD Catalyst on your system?

Dota 2 is working fine with my AMD A4-3305M w/ AMD Radeon 6480G using fglrx.
Problems? Tell us EXACTLY what you've done and what you expected to happen, IN DETAIL. That will save us questions, and we should get along better,

I have dysgraphia. This means I might have understood you incorrectly through no fault of my own.
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Re: Mint 16 S3TC and steam

Postby bushblade on Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:09 pm

clfarron4 wrote:@Bushblade: Have you installed FGLRX from the additional drivers or installed AMD Catalyst on your system?

Dota 2 is working fine with my AMD A4-3305M w/ AMD Radeon 6480G using fglrx.



Hi thanks for helping.
That sounds hopeful is your on board graphics as well?
I'm afraid I don't know what FGLRX is, and I've not heard of AMD Catalyst.
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