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Rudemeister

MintStore

Post by Rudemeister »

A few years ago I took an interest in a distribution called Linspire. It was quite an ambitious undertaking that may have been before it's time. I think they gave up too early. But anyway, they had a website called cnr.com which stood for Click N Run. You could download and install all your apps directly from this website. You could also purchase commercial software from there. I believe you could link it directly to the repos too.

I love Linux Mint. It is the best execution of a distro I have used yet. I think it would be great to create an analogous website. Then you could bypass Software Manager. Mint could also sell some of the fine commercial applications for Linux there too. This would only boost the development of Mint Linux. Heck, Apple is making zillion at their Apple store and Microsoft is headed down the same road. Why not distribute much of this great FOSS using a similar means?

I vote for http://www.mintstore.com. I think the domain is for sale too. I hope they wouldn't want too much.

:-)
che

Mint Store

Post by che »

Has there been any thought around setting up a 'mint store' for proprietary applications, this would make it easier for users to purchase proprietary software they need whilst providing a revenue source for the project. A list of packages that could be targeted:
* Fluendo Codec pack
* Fluendo DVD PLayer
* Vuescan
* Nero LinuxGuitar Pro
* Corel Aftershot Pro
* Houdini
* Autodesk Maya
* Softmaker office
* Datascene
* Moneydance
* Mathematica
* MATLAB
* SPSS
* Stata
* Parralells
* VMWare Workstation
* PDF Studio

Thoughts?
zerozero

Re: MintStore

Post by zerozero »

[moved here, same subject, topics merged, it's interesting to see the interest in this subject]
doob9911

Re: MintStore

Post by doob9911 »

Please let's do this.
I already have Corel Aftershot pro2, and Pixeluvo.
I am considering pdf studio.
It's very hard to find commercial software for linux.
Mintstore will help users and developers.
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Re: MintStore

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bypass Software Manager. Mint could also sell some of the fine commercial applications for Linux there too.
Commercialize Linux? Sell FOSS?
Why not distribute much of this great FOSS
I believe you could link it directly to the repos too.
This would imply that Mint devs have tested and endorse the compatibility of this enormous software list and
would also provide support.
(and which apps gets on the list--and why?)
Everything in life was difficult before it became easy.
frodopogo

Re: MintStore

Post by frodopogo »

I've been using Linux Mint since Elyssa.

Avoiding Windows malware AND obnoxious virus programs was such a relief that for a long time, I was overlooking some lacks in Mint.

Lately, Mint has achieved such a high degree of polish that whenever it gets reviewed.... there is very little for the reviewer to say, except it's very good!

However, this degree of polish doesn't extend to the Software Manager. It's better and friendlier than Synaptic, but it's still kind a jumbled haystack of things.
It needs some work.... maybe a complete rethinking.

The thing is, as it is now, Linux Mint is a very good Swiss Army knife... it's a good general purpose tool, but it takes the availability of the best application software to turn it into a more specialized tool.

And I understand how Clement and team tend to be cautious about apps, since they can break things, but the availability of popular apps is one reason end-users even come to a particular distro. For instance, I used Firefox and Audacity on Windows before I migrated to Linux Mint, and knowing those were available for Linux meant the whole transition was a lot less unsettling than it would have been, since my two favorite programs were waiting on the other side to meet me!!!! Knowing LibreOffice was feature-rich and comparable to Microsoft Office was a plus too. I also chose Mint because it was Ubuntu compatible, figuring that there would be more software available.
I think something has to be done to make more and better apps available to Linux Mint users.
The thing is that the communities that Linux has serviced to this point has been corporate servers and programmers (and hackers! :roll: )
There is a natural tendency to have apps to support the needs of those communities.
However, I think there needs to be steps made beyond that.
For instance, in competing with Microsoft, Apple made a strong decision to cater to the needs of creative people- musicians, artists, and writers. This strategy paid off, and gave Apple a loyal base that helped them survive.
I think a similar thing needs to be done by the most important Linux distros.
Target specific communities, starting with the most popular programs first. At some point, there needs to be a willingness to accept the idea of paid software. The smaller the number of users, the less contributors there will be, and to ensure quality, something needs to be charged to support coders and testers.

Another idea would be to focus on application communities. If an application software project looks healthy, is writing high quality (and Mint compatible!) code, and has ideas that show great potential, something needs to be done to support those projects. There might be something to be said for similar design philosophies and even geographical proximity which might help for conferencing.

One simple thing would be to try to guarantee that any program worthy of being "featured" in the featured software section isn't more than one version behind the latest version of that software. With Mint 17, I was having problems with Firefox, but I don't trust Google enough to try Chrome or Chromium. So I tried several small, fast, light browsers that didn't bog down my older computer as much. One got some good reviews, but had some problems with the forum software of a user forum I use. I reported the problems, but they really weren't that interested in supporting the (two release old) version that was in the Mint Software Center... maybe they'd already fixed those bugs. Well, I don't know how to recompile yet, and I couldn't help them. Could you blame them? How interested is Mint in supporting Maya? I mean, yeah, it's LTS, but I see signs the passion really isn't there. Linux application projects are not big projects either.... they don't have enough people to be able to afford to focus much on the past versions.
But then, in offering two-versions-old software in the Software Center, Mint is basically asking users to use software that won't get supported by the writer. That's not really a good idea, either. So a potential user of those programs is "caught between a rock and a hard place".
BTW... Scribus (Desktop Publishing Program) is in the Featured section of the Software Center. I was reading the reviews, and one of the first reviews said it was two versions old. I quickly lost interest after the experience with the browser's support team.

I'm at the point where I'm thinking of asking software projects whose apps I am interested in if there are any distros whose repositories have the latest version of the software, then running it in a separate partition.
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