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I think MGSE was a great desktop, better than Unity and the default gnome-shell desktop, and LInux Mint should not give it up! I think we should have a Linux Mint MGCE besides Cinnamon and Mate

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You honestly think that holds a candle to Cinnamon? Anyway, the Linux Mint team isn't going to revive MGSE and you very well know it. MGSE + Gnome Shell didn't allow the Linux Mint team to implement their vision of the desktop. MGSE + Gnome Shell was superseded by Cinnamon almost exactly 2 years ago for that reason. I'll throw some quotes from Clem below on this topic.

Both MATE and Gnome Shell are promising projects but MATE’s ultimate goal is to replicate Gnome 2 using GTK+ and Gnome Shell doesn’t provide what we need in a desktop and is going in a direction we do not want to follow. So for these reasons we’re designing a new desktop called Cinnamon, which leverages new technology and implements our vision. ([url=http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1910]source[/url])

Following the feedback we gathered on Gnome Shell after the release of Linux Mint 12, it was clear that despite our efforts with MATE and MGSE, we still didn’t manage to reach our goals and to offer Gnome 2 a valid alternative. Some people were enthusiastic about the new alternatives, others were disappointed. For this reason and in an effort to please a wider portion of our user base, we decided to continue to support MATE and to develop a new desktop called Cinnamon. MATE 1.2 should be out soon. Cinnamon 1.2 is already out and available to Linux Mint 12 users via the repositories. ([url=http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1925]source[/url])

Why do they have dogmas about desktops! Is xfce a "replicate Gnome 2" or is KDE!! I think they have reached their goal! Cinnamon is rock solid now and has more features than any other DE (maybe not kde). It won't be resource heavy if they add another DE for the broader user base Gnome 3 has more users than xfce and it's more like a mainstream DE. Other distros are doing really bad with gnome 3 when it comes to user friendliness and this is where Mint should take the lead!

Why? The Cinnamon developers will have no interest in developing something like MGSE for Gnome Shell; they already have something better matching to their vision of what the desktop should be--and continue to evolve and improve that vision on Cinnamon. The Linux Mint developers are a smaller team and they aren't going to divert development capacity to pursue something that doesn't let them implement their vision of what the desktop should be either.

More and more distros are shipping Cinnamon, so those users for whom Gnome Shell doesn't work can shift to Cinnamon easily. If you look back at what MGSE actually did for Gnome Shell, I think you can today hodgepodge together something similar with the available extensions. MGSE wasn't a match for the Linux Mint developers' vision of what the desktop should be 2 years back (though it was an evolutionary step towards that vision; i.e., Cinnamon) and it wouldn't be today.

Nobody else is going to do this, so it's up to you if you want it

xenopeek wrote:Why? The Cinnamon developers will have no interest in developing something like MGSE for Gnome Shell; they already have something better matching to their vision of what the desktop should be--and continue to evolve and improve that vision on Cinnamon. The Linux Mint developers are a smaller team and they aren't going to divert development capacity to pursue something that doesn't let them implement their vision of what the desktop should be either.

More and more distros are shipping Cinnamon, so those users for whom Gnome Shell doesn't work can shift to Cinnamon easily. If you look back at what MGSE actually did for Gnome Shell, I think you can today hodgepodge together something similar with the available extensions. MGSE wasn't a match for the Linux Mint developers' vision of what the desktop should be 2 years back (though it was an evolutionary step towards that vision; i.e., Cinnamon) and it wouldn't be today.

Nobody else is going to do this, so it's up to you if you want it

I agree with you! You can clone MGCE with extensions and Ialready told the guy who made the "configurable menu" here [url]http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets/view/163[/url] to make us one on github here https://github.com/lestcape/Configurable-Menu/issues

REmember this https://github.com/lestcape/Configurable-Menu/issues/1. That guy has made it for us here [url]http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets/view/163[/url]

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So it was just about the menu? You don't want to revive MGSE any longer?

xenopeek wrote:So it was just about the menu? You don't want to revive MGSE any longer?

No i don't