proxima_centauri wrote:As for a lot of settings, yes, one has to rely on gnome-tweak-tool for the time being - but it does a good job at managing themes, fonts, desktop, and extensions. GNOME3 is not for the users who like to customize and tweak every available setting - that's for sure - I think they're trying to distance themselves from this in favour of stability and reliability.
KBD47 wrote:Just read this:
Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), has been joined by rival OpenSUSE, which is jumping to GNOME 3 in its 12.1 beta (see farther below).
Both projects have adopted the latest GNOME 3.2 release, which is said to have squashed many of the bugs of the original, while fixing a few of the most unpopular changes. Yet, GNOME has not backtracked much from its radical UI makeover.
This is important because both Fedora 16 and OpenSUSE 12.1 will block users from booting into GNOME 2.x except for a simplified fallback mode for low-end systems.
http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News ... -121-beta/
I'm just wondering how 'simplified' that fallback will be. Obviously they are pushing for acceptance of the full Gnome 3 desktop. I think in the end I will likely end up with Torvalds using Xfce. I still say Xfce for Main Mint. I just wonder if a crippled or severely hacked Gnome 3 to look like classic gnome can survive for long.
HardyH wrote:GTK+3 will sooner or later have massive influence on XFCE too,so you'll end up with a GTK+3 based XFCE with the same idiotic confuguration and usability problems like in Gnome 3 Shell and Fallback....
craig10x wrote:HardyH...you might want to read this comment which was among the responses on the page where that article is that you linked us to...
I guess i am more optimistic then either you or linuxviolin, and suspect that for those of us who prefer a conventional looking desktop, we will still be able to have that with gnome3 both now and in the "long run"....and that going to kde is not going to have to be a "desperate option" we will all have to consider...
Here is the comment:
If any of you have read the comments about GNOME3 on their website, you would know that all these functions are accessible, and will be accessible by default in future revisions. There is already a sponsored “tweaks” program–many of the things you gripe about here are easily solved by installing that package. As they say on their website, their first concern was building the fundamentals–which they’ve done–and now they are working on extending it. The extension set up allows anyone to easily create new features for anyone to use. Just because there hasn’t been much time to build extensions doesn’t mean that GNOME is a dictatorship.
HardyH wrote:So you find it acceptable to install extentions and tweak tools and editing some kind of registry to perform things that could be done with a simple right click in Gnome 2?
HardyH wrote:So you find it acceptable to install extentions and tweak tools and editing some kind of registry to perform things that could be done with a simple right click in Gnome 2? You must be joking.....
zerozero wrote:proxima_centauri wrote:To add something constructive to the topic, Clem has hinted that Linux Mint 12 will feature a GNOME2 and GNOME3 version.
now this is big news
KBD47 wrote:BTW anyone have any idea when Main Mint 12 is going to come out?
<clem> the future is Gnome 3, we need to get started with it and build a destkop as good as we did with Gnome 2... but until we're 100% happy with it I'd like to continue to support Gnome 2.
<clem> the plan for Mint 12 (it might still change) is to provide both Gnome 2 and Gnome 3 as separate editions.
Linux Mint 12 “Lisa” will be released in November this year with continued support for Gnome 2 but also with the introduction of Gnome 3. The radical changes introduced by the Gnome project split the community. At the time of releasing Linux Mint 11 we decided it was too early to adopt Gnome 3. This time around, the decision isn’t as simple. Gnome 3.2 is more mature and we can see the potential of this new desktop and use it to implement something that can look and behave better than anything based on Gnome 2. Of course, we’re starting from scratch and this process will take time and span across multiple releases. Until then, it’s important we continue to support the traditional Gnome 2 desktop. We’re likely to release two separate editions, one for Gnome 2.32 and one for Gnome 3.2. We’re also working in cooperation with the MATE project (which is a fork of Gnome 2) at the moment to see if we can make both desktops compatible in an effort to let you run both Gnome 2 (or MATE) and Gnome 3 on the same system, either in Linux Mint 12, or for the future.
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