Startup Manager / Services + Mint 13

[jr2]

I hope that Mint 13 will have a Startup Manager installed by default.
Would also be nice to have "Services" in addition to "Startup Applications" in Control Center , the way older versions used to have both.

Would it be a good idea to have Startup Manager and / or Services managing application to be included in Linux Mint 13?

[bimsebasse]

Startup Manager doesn't work too well with grub2 and many users have experienced problems with it, I guess that's why it was axed for Mint 12. I'm all for including Grub Customizer, though, it does the same and more perfectly, and is updated often.

[mtnbiker72]

I second this, Grub Customizer is much better than Start Up Manager

[DrHu]

Service running is probably the more important consideration..
--so services would be the choice, however there are plenty of ways of managing services

I usually use rc-conf in most Debian based Linux or derivatives
--its easier to read than sys-v init..

http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-co ... vices.html

http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
--or use another gui choice
http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html

Sysv-init method..
http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/05/how ... rformance/
http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/05/how ... matically/

[altair4]

The services part of this thread does seem to be a problem. All the old tools like update-rc.d, sysv-rc-conf, rcconf, and bum are tools for managing System-V style init scripts ( /etc/init.d ). They are not able to manage Upstart jobs ( /etc/init ). The standard Mint is based on Ubuntu so theres a mixture of Sys-V and Upstart job controllers involved.

If you run the following command all of the jobs with a "?" mark next to them are upstart jobs:

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sudo service --status-all

And if you run this command all you will see are upstart jobs:

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sudo initctl list

A "Services Manager" gui would have to be smart enough to be able to control both.

[tomast]

The "a Startup Manager" was just meant to be a generic term.
Whatever you want to call it Grub Customizer or whatever... Something would be better than Nothing at all , like in 12...