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12 CRYPTIC Question Marks with Elyssa Install

Postby svgt on Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:28 am

Hi,

I have examined the md5sums. I tried two different CDs. There is 1 GB RAM.
With both Beta-systems all was running well.

I have got a problem with installing the new 5.0 Release. I click the install icon. After Keyboard Layout there is an information window:

Starting up the partitioner. Then a cryptic window appears with 12 question marks and the no-entry traffic sign. I hit the OK button and the system is running around in a loop.

What is the solution? There a two hdds in the system sda and sdb.
there are the following partitions: sda1 sdb1 sdb5 sdb7 sdb8

sdb2 is the extented container. sdb6 is the swap partition.

Disk /dev/sda: 8455 MB, 8455200768 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1027 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x000ef021

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 1027 8249346 c W95 FAT32 (LBA)

Disk /dev/sdb: 41.1 GB, 41174138880 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 5005 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x000b60fb

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 973 7815591 83 Linux
/dev/sdb2 974 3468 20041087+ 5 Extended
/dev/sdb5 974 1338 2931831 83 Linux
/dev/sdb6 1339 1533 1566306 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb7 1534 2566 8297541 83 Linux
/dev/sdb8 2567 3468 7245283+ 83 Linux

I just tried the same CD with a single hdd system, only one partition sda1. Then this cryptic no-information-message does not appear. Therefore what is wrong with partition assembly?

regards,

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Re: 12 CRYPTIC Question Marks with Elyssa Install

Postby 67GTA on Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:05 pm

I've never seen that before. It may be a hardware problem. Have you had any trouble with other distros? Post the output of
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sudo lshw
from a terminal, with the live CD.
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Re: 12 CRYPTIC Question Marks with Elyssa Install

Postby svgt on Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:09 pm

Hi,

I had never problems with other distros. There were no problems with same hardware with foregoing betas. UBUNTU 8.04 and MINT 4.0 is running quite well on this hardware.



escription: Computer
product: P4i65G
version: 1.00
serial: 00000000
width: 32 bits
capabilities: smbios-2.3 dmi-2.3
configuration: uuid=00020003-0004-0005-0006-000700080009
*-core
description: Motherboard
product: P4i65G
physical id: 0
version: 1.00
serial: 00000000
*-firmware
description: BIOS
vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
physical id: 0
version: P1.30 (09/08/2006)
size: 64KiB
capacity: 448KiB
capabilities: isa pci pnp upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy360 int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb agp ls120boot zipboot biosbootspecification
*-cpu
description: CPU
product: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.53GHz
vendor: Intel Corp.
physical id: 3
bus info: cpu@0
version: 15.2.4
slot: mPGA478
size: 2527MHz
capacity: 2527MHz
width: 32 bits
clock: 133MHz
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm up pebs bts sync_rdtsc
configuration: id=0
*-cache:0
description: L1 cache
physical id: 4
slot: L1-Cache
size: 8KiB
capacity: 8KiB
capabilities: pipeline-burst internal varies data
*-cache:1
description: L2 cache
physical id: 5
slot: L2-cache
size: 512KiB
capacity: 512KiB
capabilities: pipeline-burst internal varies unified
*-cache:2 DISABLED
description: L3 cache
physical id: 6
slot: L3-cache
capabilities: internal
*-memory
description: System memory
physical id: 1
size: 1010MiB
*-pci
description: Host bridge
product: 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 100
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
configuration: driver=agpgart-intel module=intel_agp
*-pci:0
description: PCI bridge
product: 82865G/PE/P PCI to AGP Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master
*-display UNCLAIMED
description: VGA compatible controller
product: NV15 [GeForce2 GTS/Pro]
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
version: a3
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pm agp agp-2.0 vga_controller bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=32 maxlatency=1 mingnt=5
*-usb:0
description: USB Controller
product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 module=uhci_hcd
*-usb:1
description: USB Controller
product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.1
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 module=uhci_hcd
*-usb:2
description: USB Controller
product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #3
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.2
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 module=uhci_hcd
*-usb:3
description: USB Controller
product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.3
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 module=uhci_hcd
*-usb:4
description: USB Controller
product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.7
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.7
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0 module=ehci_hcd
*-pci:1
description: PCI bridge
product: 82801 PCI Bridge
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1e
bus info: pci@0000:00:1e.0
version: c2
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master
*-multimedia:0
description: Multimedia video controller
product: Bt878 Video Capture
vendor: Brooktree Corporation
physical id: 2
bus info: pci@0000:02:02.0
version: 11
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: vpd pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=bttv latency=32 maxlatency=40 mingnt=16 module=bttv
*-multimedia:1
description: Multimedia controller
product: Bt878 Audio Capture
vendor: Brooktree Corporation
physical id: 2.1
bus info: pci@0000:02:02.1
version: 11
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: vpd pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=Bt87x latency=32 maxlatency=255 mingnt=4 module=snd_bt87x
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
physical id: 5
bus info: pci@0000:02:05.0
logical name: eth0
version: 10
serial: 00:13:8f:ee:95:e0
size: 100MB/s
capacity: 100MB/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=full ip=192.168.178.20 latency=32 link=yes maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 module=8139too multicast=yes port=MII speed=100MB/s
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: isa bus_master
configuration: latency=0
*-ide
description: IDE interface
product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.1
logical name: scsi0
logical name: scsi1
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ide bus_master emulated
configuration: driver=ata_piix latency=0 module=ata_piix
*-disk:0
description: ATA Disk
product: IBM-DHEA-38451
vendor: IBM
physical id: 0
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/sda
version: HP8O
serial: SH0SH1J1424
size: 8063MiB (8455MB)
capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: ansiversion=5 signature=000ef021
*-volume
description: Windows FAT volume
vendor: MSWIN4.1
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,1
logical name: /dev/sda1
version: FAT32
serial: 3923-1ee0
size: 8055MiB
capacity: 8056MiB
capabilities: primary bootable fat initialized
configuration: FATs=2 filesystem=fat label=ALTEPOST
*-disk:1
description: ATA Disk
product: IC35L040AVER07-0
vendor: Hitachi
physical id: 0.1.0
bus info: scsi@0:0.1.0
logical name: /dev/sdb
version: ER4O
serial: SXPTX3K8087
size: 38GiB (41GB)
capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: ansiversion=5 signature=000b60fb
*-volume:0
description: EXT3 volume
vendor: Linux
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@0:0.1.0,1
logical name: /dev/sdb1
version: 1.0
serial: a47548aa-672c-4fbc-9917-ed8412f5683b
size: 7632MiB
capacity: 7632MiB
capabilities: primary bootable journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files recover ext3 ext2 initialized
configuration: created=2008-05-02 13:32:45 filesystem=ext3 modified=2008-06-09 08:47:14 mounted=2008-06-09 08:40:59 state=clean
*-volume:1
description: Extended partition
physical id: 2
bus info: scsi@0:0.1.0,2
logical name: /dev/sdb2
size: 19GiB
capacity: 19GiB
capabilities: primary extended partitioned partitioned:extended
*-logicalvolume:0
description: Linux filesystem partition
physical id: 5
logical name: /dev/sdb5
capacity: 2863MiB
*-logicalvolume:1
description: Linux swap / Solaris partition
physical id: 6
logical name: /dev/sdb6
capacity: 1529MiB
capabilities: nofs
*-logicalvolume:2
description: Linux filesystem partition
physical id: 7
logical name: /dev/sdb7
capacity: 8103MiB
*-logicalvolume:3
description: Linux filesystem partition
physical id: 8
logical name: /dev/sdb8
capacity: 7075MiB
*-cdrom
description: DVD-RAM writer
product: DVDRAM GSA-4040B
vendor: HL-DT-ST
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/cdrom
logical name: /dev/dvd
logical name: /dev/scd0
logical name: /dev/sr0
logical name: /cdrom
version: A304
capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
configuration: ansiversion=5 mount.fstype=iso9660 mount.options=ro,noatime,relatime state=mounted status=ready
*-medium
physical id: 0
logical name: /dev/cdrom
logical name: /cdrom
configuration: mount.fstype=iso9660 mount.options=ro,noatime,relatime state=mounted
*-serial UNCLAIMED
description: SMBus
product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.3
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
configuration: latency=0
*-multimedia
description: Multimedia audio controller
product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.5
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.5
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=Intel ICH latency=0 module=snd_intel8x0
*-scsi
physical id: 2
bus info: usb@5:7
logical name: scsi2
capabilities: emulated scsi-host
configuration: driver=usb-storage
*-disk:0
description: SCSI Disk
product: USB SD Reader
vendor: Generic
physical id: 0.0.0
bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/sdc
version: 1.00
capabilities: removable
*-medium
physical id: 0
logical name: /dev/sdc
*-disk:1
description: SCSI Disk
product: USB CF Reader
vendor: Generic
physical id: 0.0.1
bus info: scsi@2:0.0.1
logical name: /dev/sdd
version: 1.01
capabilities: removable
*-medium
physical id: 0
logical name: /dev/sdd
*-disk:2
description: SCSI Disk
product: USB SM Reader
vendor: Generic
physical id: 0.0.2
bus info: scsi@2:0.0.2
logical name: /dev/sde
version: 1.02
capabilities: removable
*-medium
physical id: 0
logical name: /dev/sde
*-disk:3
description: SCSI Disk
product: USB MS Reader
vendor: Generic
physical id: 0.0.3
bus info: scsi@2:0.0.3
logical name: /dev/sdf
version: 1.03
capabilities: removable
*-medium
physical id: 0
logical name: /dev/sdf
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Re: 12 CRYPTIC Question Marks with Elyssa Install

Postby 67GTA on Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:54 pm

My next suggestion was to try it without the second hard drive. Sounds like the second drive is making the installer choke.
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Re: 12 CRYPTIC Question Marks with Elyssa Install

Postby svgt on Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:18 am

Hi,

I have managed it to get a new Mint at the drive. I pulled one drive and made the sdb to a sda one. Only one disc drive was in the system. Then all was running well.

This bypass has for me the same relation to the problem, as if I take my bicycle and put it on the top my roof. The only unusual situation with my drives was: on former sda was no bootable windows, it was a data disc.

All former distributions including the Elyssa betas and Ubuntu 8.04 never never stumbled about my hardware.
I think it would be not the right way to set this thread solved.

regards,

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Re: 12 CRYPTIC Question Marks with Elyssa Install

Postby Husse on Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:17 pm

I have noticed that Ubiquity - the installer - is a bit buggy when it comes to grub
I really do hope this is not one more bug
However to unplug one drive - install - plug it back in - perhaps make some changes to grub because of that
is an acceptable work around > this is installing and a bit more "geeky" than normal use
Something like it to fix a problem in a working system is not acceptable I agree
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