administrollaattori wrote:Why Mint would affect to Windows key? I have installed some linuxes and keys are still alive ..
JosephM wrote:I had the same situation with my own new laptop. I just created recovery discs from within the windows install. When I needed to re-install windows I just did so from the recovery discs. Then you don't need to have the windows key. It was activated automatically as part of the re-install.
AlbertP wrote:You should never need to format your whole harddrive. If you ever want to reinstall Mint, you can use the same Mint partitions and format them again, no need to format Windows too.
AlbertP wrote:For Windows 8 computers, you can just disable Secure Boot in your BIOS and Linux should work. But to have a dual-boot, please ensure Mint boots in UEFI mode, and not in legacy mode. You can select this in the computer's boot menu after disabling Secure Boot.
iamfilipe wrote:Once happened to me that Windows boot got corrupted and I have to re-install it. Fortunately, it was on a Windows 7 computer and I had the stick with the key attached
iamfilipe wrote:And Linux Mint KDE will boot with UEFI turned on? :s I thought it didn't support UEFI :s
iamfilipe wrote:So if I just use recovery to create the recovery disk (it must be on a usb hard drive or it can be in a DVD?) then I can safely reinstall Windows using that image without having to put the key or any other certification? :/
AlbertP wrote:And the product key should be on a sticker on your computer.
JosephM wrote:Actually that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I bought a new HP laptop a few months back and it doesn't have the sticker with the Windows key either. The first thing I did when I brought it home was to create recovery discs and wipe Windows so I could install Linux. I just restored Windows from the discs a couple of days ago and when it was finished Windows was already properly activated.
AlbertP wrote:Those computers have the activation information written into their BIOS (I just read a few days ago that such a thing is possible). Any computer that doesn't do it that way, must have a sticker. It may be hidden under some kind of cover on the laptop's downside or under the battery. I also read about laptops that have the sticker on the charger.
Either way it should still be possible to get Windows working, in case it ever needs to be reinstalled.
Mark Phelps wrote:Win8 changed the game several ways from Win7, two of which seriously affect reinstallation and dual-booting.
First, with Win8 PCs, the COA no longer includes the printed key; instead, that is written into the BIOS on the machine's motherboard. Unlike with Win7, in Win8, each OEM key is unique to the PC; no generic OEM key is used. When you go to reinstall, using the same OEM version of Win8, it is automatically activate using the key in the BIOS.
Second, unlike with Win7, in Win8, when you shut it down, it AUTOMATICALLY goes into hibernation, and in this case, the partitions remain MOUNTED -- which prevents access to them from Linux in any way. So, if you want to share an NTFS partition between Win8 and Linux, you have to disable fast startup and hibernation in Win8 -- which will then force it to take a lot longer to reboot into Win8.
On the other hand, something that has not changed since Win7 is partition management for dual booting. Do NOT, repeat NOT, use the Linux installer slider to adjust the size of the Win8 OS partition. Doing this risks seriously corrupting the filesystem and rendering Win8 unbootable. Instead, use the MS Disk Management tool to do any shrinkage.
So, if one changes a motherboard, then they are SOL as far as Win 8 goes?
Mark;Mark Phelps wrote:So, if one changes a motherboard, then they are SOL as far as Win 8 goes?
If that is on a PC that came preinstalled with Win8 -- then yes.
OEMs used to use generic keys for activating the machines that came preinstalled with Win7. You could then replace the motherboard, and if you could obtain the info on that key, reuse it to reactivate with the new motherboard. With Win8, each key is unique -- and is licensed to that motherboard. Presuming you buy a different motherboard, it will not have a Windows 8 key in the BIOS and you will not be able to activate Win8 on that board unless you buy a retail version and use that.
Yeah boy howdy!... met a linux guy at a local office supply store that also sells computers... Wanted to show him a copy of mint that I have installed on a USB stick... had to do a fair amount of work just to boot the stick on a win 8 machine... in the process he gave me a walk through of Win8... OMG what an abomination!Dngrsone wrote:... All the more reason to dump Microsoft completely and go LInux or BSD.