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GRUB installation problem?

Postby NiksaVel on Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:41 pm

Hey all,

I've made a fresh install of kubuntu 8.10 to play around in KDE4 goodness, but I have a problem with GRUB not showing up after installation - just the missing operating system message... no GRUB at all. The installation went fine, the live cd checks out as well as md5.

I've later installed openSUSE on another partition... tried reinstalling the kubuntu and after reboot I was greeted by the opensuse grub - nothing changed?!?!?!! Tried updating grub conf in opensuse via yast, it found the kubuntu installation added it, however after trying to select it from grub during boot I get to the kubuntu grub and than I get missing file... something is deffinitelly wrong.

I've noticed that my OS hdd is recognized everywhere as sda and kubuntu registers it as sdc... important?


here is the menu.lst from the kubuntu:

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# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
#            grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
#            grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
#            and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

## default num
# Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
# the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
#
# You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
# is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
# WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not use 'savedefault' or your
# array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
default      0

## timeout sec
# Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
# (normally the first entry defined).
timeout      10

## hiddenmenu
# Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
#hiddenmenu

# Pretty colours
#color cyan/blue white/blue

## password ['--md5'] passwd
# If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
# control (menu entry editor and command-line)  and entries protected by the
# command 'lock'
# e.g. password topsecret
#      password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
# password topsecret

#
# examples
#
# title      Windows 95/98/NT/2000
# root      (hd0,0)
# makeactive
# chainloader   +1
#
# title      Linux
# root      (hd0,1)
# kernel   /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
#

#
# Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=UUID=e348df62-bcae-4bcc-971f-759375e475ff ro

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=e348df62-bcae-4bcc-971f-759375e475ff

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
##      alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
##      lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=quiet splash

## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
## e.g. lockold=false
##      lockold=true
# lockold=false

## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenhopt=

## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenkopt=console=tty0

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
##      altoptions=(recovery) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
##      howmany=7
# howmany=all

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
##      memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false

## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
## can be true or false
# savedefault=false

## ## End Default Options ##

title      Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7-generic
uuid      e348df62-bcae-4bcc-971f-759375e475ff
kernel      /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic root=UUID=e348df62-bcae-4bcc-971f-759375e475ff ro quiet splash
initrd      /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic
quiet

title      Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7-generic (recovery mode)
uuid      e348df62-bcae-4bcc-971f-759375e475ff
kernel      /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic root=UUID=e348df62-bcae-4bcc-971f-759375e475ff ro  single
initrd      /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic

title      Ubuntu 8.10, memtest86+
uuid      e348df62-bcae-4bcc-971f-759375e475ff
kernel      /boot/memtest86+.bin
quiet

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title      Other operating systems:
root


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/sdc1
title      Microsoft Windows XP Professional
root      (hd2,0)
savedefault
makeactive
map      (hd0) (hd2)
map      (hd2) (hd0)
chainloader   +1


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc2.
title      openSUSE 11.1 (on /dev/sdc2)
root      (hd2,1)
kernel      /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.7-9-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD800JB-32JJC0_WD-WMAM9S477225-part2 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD800JB-32JJC0_WD-WMAM9S477225-part6 splash=silent showopts vga=0x317
initrd      /boot/initrd-2.6.27.7-9-default
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc2.
title      Failsafe -- openSUSE 11.1 (on /dev/sdc2)
root      (hd2,1)
kernel      /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.7-9-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD800JB-32JJC0_WD-WMAM9S477225-part2 showopts ide=nodma apm=off noresume edd=off powersaved=off nohz=off highres=off processor.max_cstate=1 x11failsafe vga=0x317
initrd      /boot/initrd-2.6.27.7-9-default
savedefault
boot




and here is opensuse:

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# Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Wed Jan 14 00:32:57 CET 2009
default 0
timeout 8
##YaST - generic_mbr
gfxmenu (hd0,1)/boot/message
##YaST - activate

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux###
title openSUSE 11.1
    root (hd0,1)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD800JB-32JJC0_WD-WMAM9S477225-part2 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD800JB-32JJC0_WD-WMAM9S477225-part6 splash=silent showopts vga=0x317
    initrd /boot/initrd

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name:  Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7-generic (/dev/sda4)###
title  Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7-generic (/dev/sda4)
    root (hd0,3)
    configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows###
title Windows
    rootnoverify (hd0,0)
    chainloader +1

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe###
title Failsafe -- openSUSE 11.1
    root (hd0,1)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD800JB-32JJC0_WD-WMAM9S477225-part2 showopts ide=nodma apm=off noresume edd=off powersaved=off nohz=off highres=off processor.max_cstate=1  x11failsafe vga=0x317
    initrd /boot/initrd

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: memtest86###
title Memory Test
    kernel (hd0,1)/boot/memtest.bin

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux###
title Kernel-2.6.27.7-9-default
    root (hd0,1)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.7-9-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD800JB-32JJC0_WD-WMAM9S477225-part2 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD800JB-32JJC0_WD-WMAM9S477225-part6 splash=silent showopts vga=0x317
    initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.27.7-9-default



what can I do?
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Re: GRUB installation problem?

Postby Husse on Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:16 am

Hi NiksaVel
Long time no see :)
This seems like a problem with UUID
I think the UUID has changed and so you get the file/disk not found message
http://www.linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php ... _a_problem
http://www.linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php ... annot_boot
and/or (or not :)) grub
http://www.linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php ... _your_grub
I see that openSUSE uses the serial number of the hard disk - ingenious I think....
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Re: GRUB installation problem?

Postby NiksaVel on Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:34 pm

Hey Husse,

long time no c indeed... but that doesn't mean I don't drop down to the good old minty forums now and than :) just not enough time to hang around as much now that I've got a full time radiology residency... :mrgreen:


anyways... I've figured it out on my own if any1 is interested... the first line needed to be changed in the ubuntu grub... so now I've set the openSUSE grub which is at the hdd mbr to point to the partition sda4 (where the ubuntu grub is installed for some reason...).. and manually edited the menu.lst from kubuntu...


from:
title Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7-generic
uuid e348df62-bcae-4bcc-971f-759375e475ff
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic root=UUID=e348df62-bcae-4bcc-971f-759375e475ff ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic
quiet


to:
title Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7-generic
# uuid e348df62-bcae-4bcc-971f-759375e475ff
root (hd0,3)

kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic root=UUID=e348df62-bcae-4bcc-971f-759375e475ff ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic
quiet



there... for some reason the latest ubuntu 8.10 and grub have completely differet hdd enumerations... :/ go figure

especially nice feature for n00bs I think :evil:

so the UUID is different for GRUB and for the rest of the OS... really weird
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Re: GRUB installation problem?

Postby Husse on Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:12 am

so the UUID is different for GRUB and for the rest of the OS... really weird

Looks the same for me, but it is hard to read such strings
Do you have a separate boot partition?
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Re: GRUB installation problem?

Postby NiksaVel on Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:59 pm

no... simple as it gets except for the separate /home

not sure if it makes a difference, but the hdd that the OS is installed on is IDE, while the rest are SATA... I just think that the latest kernel used by intrepid has different "prioritizing" and makes it sdc instead of sda. Does this make any sense? :P
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Re: GRUB installation problem?

Postby Husse on Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:08 pm

This can be important - that's what this wiki is about
http://www.linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php ... annot_boot
Linked to it above
If you have a removable disk (USB) or if you have different kernels this can be changed and especially with a mix of IDE and SATA - can get really complicated
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