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there needs to be a console mode install option!

Postby miker00lz on Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:07 pm

there really should be a console mode install option during boot for older machines and/or machines with limited RAM. the GUI install is excellent, but part of the beauty of linux is that it can run on minimal hardware compared to the bulkier OSes like windows. at least allow people to easily set up swap space if they have low memory. i have an older laptop (P3 dell, 128 MB) that i wanted to try LM on and it was a huuuuge hassle to install. i had to /etc/init.d/gdm stop before it finished loading, fdisk my drive to make a swap part, enable it, and then load X again to get it going.

come on guys, this is as bad as the vista install disc requirement. :P


once i got it installed on the hard drive, it ran quite acceptably with a nice big swap partition.
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Re: there needs to be a console mode install option!

Postby Aging Technogeek on Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:55 pm

miker001z:
Download and burn to disk (or otherwise acquire) a copy of the latest version of Gparted. With this tool, you can set up your partitions before you run the install disk so the swap partition is there waiting.
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Re: there needs to be a console mode install option!

Postby emorrp1 on Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:02 pm

I could be wrong, but I believe the Universal edition is based off ubuntu's alternate disk (it has all the languages, and requires less ram). In which case it'll also have the text-mode installer.
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Re: there needs to be a console mode install option!

Postby Aging Technogeek on Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:56 pm

I don't know about the Ubuntu alternate edition, but I can tell you that the Mint 6 main edition .iso file occupies about 700 Megabytes on a CD and the Universal edition uses about 1.2 Gigabytes on a DVD. This may not reflect the amount of ram needed to run the two editions but it is something to consider.

If you want a lighter edition of Mint, try the XFCE Community Edition or the Fluxbox CE. Either one is a good choice for older systems with less ram. I use the XFCE edition and really like it but I have not tried the Fluxbox CE yet so I can't give a comparison.

On the subject of installation, I am a firm believer in manual partitioning. It is not difficult and you get exactly the installation you want. Automatic installers and partitioners are not very smart. They normally use all the space available on the HDD. This can result in an OS that boots and runs slower than it could when properly installed. Plus, by using the Gparted live CD, you can set up a swap partition before you run the Mint CD. As you already found out, this can help a great deal when your system is short on ram.
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Re: there needs to be a console mode install option!

Postby emorrp1 on Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:31 am

I too use the xfce edition, and recommend it for anyone who's got bored of gnome, but doesn't want kde. However I know for a fact that it doesn't have the text-mode installer. I suspect the main reason for the universal edition being so huge is its massively greater language support, and generally because it's designed to run on more hardware it'll include more drivers on the disk. None of this will affect your install, as it should just install the bits it actually needs.
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