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Installing like Wubi on Windows 7 RC

Postby keljaden on Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:54 pm

I am running windows 7 RC 7100. I popped in the linux mint 7 disk just like I did on my win xp machine and told it to do the "wubi" like install of linux mint. Restarts and then....my only boot option is windows...actually it didn't even give me an option like it normally does. just went straight into windows 7. Works fine in my XP pro box. Not sure why it is failing here. I have one 320 gig Sata drive so nothing fancy. The normal Wubi installer works. So why is this linux mint failing. I love linux mint and if they supported a few more games I wouldn't hesitate to be using this as my ONLY OS. (WINE is so awesome.)

So why is this Wubi like version failing and what can I do to fix it. I am not new to linux but I am know where near as knowledgeable about it as I am with windows. Please help.
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Re: Installing like Wubi on Windows 7 RC

Postby Husse on Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:32 pm

mit4win is forked off wubi so they are not identical
I think I have to ask merlwiz79 who maintains mint4win
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Re: Installing like Wubi on Windows 7 RC

Postby merlwiz79 on Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:16 pm

You need to run in in Compatibility Mode.(Vista)
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Re: Installing like Wubi on Windows 7 RC

Postby plasmarox on Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:26 am

I runs fine under mine - i didnt need to do compatability mode :S

I just popped this disc in, install, worked :)

This is on a clean installation of win7 though.
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Re: Installing like Wubi on Windows 7 RC

Postby merlwiz79 on Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:28 pm

plasmarox wrote:I runs fine under mine - i didnt need to do compatability mode :S

I just popped this disc in, install, worked :)

This is on a clean installation of win7 though.

Not with mint4win.
I have tested it and it doesn't work.
I tried to change the code but it would read it.(still didn't work with Win7)
I hope I can get the next version to work with Win7.
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Re: Installing like Wubi on Windows 7 RC

Postby plasmarox on Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:00 pm

Not with mint4win.
I have tested it and it doesn't work.
I tried to change the code but it would read it.(still didn't work with Win7)
I hope I can get the next version to work with Win7.


Sorry to argue, but yes, with mint4win!

i can post a video if you like ;)
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Re: Installing like Wubi on Windows 7 RC

Postby Husse on Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:01 am

As I wrote wubi and mint4win are not identical so sometimes the one won't work when the other one will
I think this will please merlwiz79
It may be hardware related - to help fixing this could you post lspci and also the exact version of Windows 7 you use
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Re: Installing like Wubi on Windows 7 RC

Postby plasmarox on Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:27 am

Husse wrote:As I wrote wubi and mint4win are not identical so sometimes the one won't work when the other one will
I think this will please merlwiz79
It may be hardware related - to help fixing this could you post lspci and also the exact version of Windows 7 you use



Yup - im using the official RC of windows 7- (build no 7100)

The only actual difference is i tri boot with XP, 7, and mint4win; but because the boot loader is managed by windows 7, this should make no difference.

lspci:

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tim@mint ~ $ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev d3)
00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.3 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M24 [Radeon Mobility X600]
06:01.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
06:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
06:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCIxx21/x515 Cardbus Controller
06:04.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
06:04.3 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller
06:04.4 SD Host controller: Texas Instruments PCI6411/6421/6611/6621/7411/7421/7611/7621 Secure Digital Controller
tim@mint ~ $


This is on my Toshiba Satellite M70 laptop (circa 2005/6)
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Re: Installing like Wubi on Windows 7 RC

Postby merlwiz79 on Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:40 pm

plasmarox wrote:Sorry to argue, but yes, with mint4win!

i can post a video if you like ;)

Ok it's because you have Windows XP too.
It won't work if you have only Windows 7.
With XP installed Windows 7 installs a boot manager that's compatible for XP.
Then mint4win installs using the XP boot.ini and the Windows 7 Boot Manager adds the entry.
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Re: Installing like Wubi on Windows 7 RC

Postby plasmarox on Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:03 pm

merlwiz79 wrote:
plasmarox wrote:Sorry to argue, but yes, with mint4win!

i can post a video if you like ;)

Ok it's because you have Windows XP too.
It won't work if you have only Windows 7.
With XP installed Windows 7 installs a boot manager that's compatible for XP.
Then mint4win installs using the XP boot.ini and the Windows 7 Boot Manager adds the entry.



Really? i thought windows 7 chains loads NTLDR... so it has the same bootloader, regardless... Nevermind, you know more about it than me :)

Do you think you could add the entry manually, using easyBCD or something? Just a thought...
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Re: Installing like Wubi on Windows 7 RC

Postby plasmarox on Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:09 pm

Ah, we're both right! in a way....


Here is my boot.ini:(from XP drive)


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;Warning: Boot.ini is used on Windows XP and earlier operating systems.
;Warning: Use BCDEDIT.exe to modify Windows Vista boot options.
;
[boot loader]
timeout=15
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT
c:\wubildr.mbr="Linux_Mint_Main"



Looks like the vista/7 bootloader just adds the boot.ini settings onto its own bootloader, and mint4win added the entry to the boot.ini..,

so in theory, mint4win doesnt work on vista either... amirite?
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Re: Installing like Wubi on Windows 7 RC

Postby merlwiz79 on Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:40 am

It works on Vista just fine.
It just can't detect Windows 7 and Windows 7 uses the same boot manager as Vista.
So when It's ran in compatibility mode(Vista) it detects as Vista and adds the entry.
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