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Boot Problem (il loads only one time on two)

Postby jokerinux on Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:41 am

I have tryed to install linux many times..
but always grub didn't work. (error 15 and 22)

I think that the problem was caused by my raid card (that allow me to use my two IDE HDD but the raid function is disabled)
Infact when i fisically disabilited it whe install procedure worked!

Now i have reabilited my raid card on motherboard but i have another problem!

The boot doesn't work everytime, but only sometime! After the selection of the version to load ( linux mint based on ubuntu 7.04) the boot stops and the only thing that i can do is to reset, hoping that the next time will work (like a lottery!)

i always think that informatics is a exact science, but maybe it isn't so!

i post here also mi HW configuration...and ask me i u need some info or log!

ty for supporting!

motherboard asus P5B
Processor Intel Dual Core E6300
graphic card GeForce 7600 GT
FIRST HDD SATA Maxtor STM332082 S-ata2
OTHERS HDD (maxtor) connected through a RAID card ( raid function is disabilited) JMicron 20360/20363 UltraAta 133 Pci Adapter
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Postby Husse on Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:23 pm

Which disk is Mint installed on?
What else (Windows?) do you have and how does it work?
I also see JMicron and according to some sources JMicron and Linux are not happy together...
And no - computers is no exact science :)
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Postby nick on Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:07 pm

Hi

I tried installing Debian on a similar board and ended up installing from a usb pendrive:

See
http://linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5abafcfd46

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Postby Husse on Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:19 am

Hey nick
I think it was you that (in this forum) stated that Jmicron and Linux are not happy together
Any news on that?
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Postby nick on Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:34 am

Hi Husse

I did state that jmicron and Linux do not mix, On the distro I installed, the cdrom device could not be used because of no jmicron driver support, therefore I had to install from USB stick, thats why I suggested but reading again I see that installing is not the problem.

I mst read the questions, I must read..... :)

I had cyclical starts on occasions after the install, the same as the poster I ended up installing custom kernel from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ But this was Debian

I do not know how the latest kernels work but I know myself and others had lots of problems with jmicron

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Postby jokerinux on Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:29 pm

Husse wrote:Which disk is Mint installed on?

Mint is installed as a partition of the 320 Maxtor disk (the one NOT behind the raid card)

Husse wrote:What else (Windows?) do you have and how does it work?

I have installed also 2 xp on the same HDD and they works perfectly..never had a problem on Win (and this thing drive crazy!)

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Postby jokerinux on Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:28 pm

people, i love linux mint and i want to use it!

i don't want to go back to xp!

please support!

i don't know if it can help you but i have done a screenshot of the boot procedure to let you see where the boot stops.

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i hope that this new info can help you!

ps: if someone can help me to reduce the size tell me how!

ty again
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Postby Husse on Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:43 pm

It's the Jmicron controller that gives you problems
Try editing /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the options "quiet splash --" with "nosplash noapic noacpi --".
It's only the first line with quiet splash you need to change (in the first go)
If you have success remove nosplash noapic noacpi one at a time to minimize the impact
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Postby jokerinux on Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:39 pm

i edited it with gedit (with sudo permission)

Code: Select all
/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=/dev/sda6 ro nosplash noapic noacpi


but nothing! it don't work! :evil:

also if i've changed mint version 3.1 -> 4.0 with the new kernel, but it was not helpful!

what i have to do? :cry:

change the jmicron card? :x
trash the pc? :roll:
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Postby Husse on Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:30 am

I've answered some fifty questions since last night and it's simply getting too much now, so I'll bump it for my self and take a fresh look later
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Postby nick on Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:13 am

Hi
I can not help you with font size but
try:


a)
modify the file

/boot/grub/grub.conf

add the parameter "all-generic-ide" to the line
keneral vmlinuz *************


heres an example of the appropiate section of grub..conf....
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/sho ... p?t=120378

b) Get a different motherboard

c) try a netinstall CD of Debian,(lenny or from my above post) when installed:

and if it works OK

Do "apt-get install gnome"

"apt-get install xorg"

Add multimedia repositories

Sorry I cannot be of more help

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Postby Husse on Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:46 pm

I'm on it again - should have done something else
There is also nolapic to try - and if this has been done already forgive me :)
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Re: Boot Problem (il loads only one time on two)

Postby jokerinux on Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:22 pm

a)
modify the file

/boot/grub/grub.conf

add the parameter "all-generic-ide" to the line
keneral vmlinuz *************


heres an example of the appropiate section of grub..conf....
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/sho ... p?t=120378


i tried but the boot stops at the same point.
I want also to underline that with mint 4.0 i installed the SO without problem, and sometime the boot works! without a apparenty cause!

b) Get a different motherboard


mi mobo is brand new!

c) try a netinstall CD of Debian,(lenny or from my above post) when installed:

and if it works OK

Do "apt-get install gnome"

"apt-get install xorg"

Add multimedia repositories


with this solution i'll have a debian minted or a mint 4.0??

this will create a stable system?
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Re: Boot Problem (il loads only one time on two)

Postby nick on Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:46 pm

Hi

I meant get a motherboard without the Jmicron controller
as I think that is the cause of your problems.

I suggested Debian as that is is the only Linux I have installed
without problems with the jmicron, no you will not end up
with Mint

Sorry I cannot help - Nick
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Re: Boot Problem (il loads only one time on two)

Postby jokerinux on Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:12 pm

this evening i installed mandriva 2008.0 and it perfectly boot!

is a debian-based problem???

or a ubuntu-based problem?
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Re: Boot Problem (il loads only one time on two)

Postby nick on Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:52 am

Hi

It is an Ubuntu problem with Dual Core Support
on Asus P5B Deluxe (Motherboard) and Foxconn P9657AA-8EKRS2H (Motherboard)

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support

There is some hints on link.

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