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Re: Installation Instructions

Postby pcpunk on Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:12 pm

I am hating Linux as there is no REAL instructiions anywhere! It is rediculous to not be able to install the OS in a simple matter. I don't know who is behind all of this LInux thing but they are surely not using there heads! I am only trying to Re-install LM17MQ32bit over my old corrupted 64bit of the same. I have scoured the internet and youtube to get answers but cannot find much of anything good. There are some good videos but most are not and don't address the particular issue that I am having. I am trying to do a dual boot with my xp system, that has LM17MQ64bit as stated above. So I need to leave the xp there and choose whatever to install new over the old. I have read that this is possible without even making a new partition, and just installing over the old?. I have been workingn on this for a long time now so it has become a waste! I could have just bought a Windows product and been on my way, really would it be that much of a task to just expand the Manual? Then at least people-and especially newbie's could do it on their own ya know. Here is my thread on this issue, I am getting some help from another forum but things are going so slow as people are obviously busy.
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=173004
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Re: Installation Instructions

Postby eRCaGuy on Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:26 am

Oscar799, I just wrote some detailed steps on how I successfully got dual boot on my AMD-based system, in case others have problems with similar installs and can benefit from my notes. Just thought I'd share: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=177283. Two hurdles were: 1) not natively-supported graphics card (had to use "nomodeset" and then later install the linux driver, and 2) some strange UEFI boot problems that required some strange trickery and then an install of rEFInd.
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Re: Installation Instructions

Postby pcpunk on Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:45 pm

Thanks oscar, always good to have more solutions for everyone although this was not my issue.
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Re: Installation Instructions

Postby prime-mass on Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:31 pm

Need to add something about Rebecca which is VERY IMPORTANT / CRUCIAL:

When installing linux mint Rebecca (from Live USB in my case) there is a fundamental difference in how Mint 17.1 Rebecca installs.

My HDD was partitioned like this up until 10mins ago:

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After installation of Rebecca, this is how my HDD looks:

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Notice the difference?

That's right. Data Lost. Some brainiac forgot some options in the installation tool of Rebecca which allow one to mark which partition is primary and which is extended, etc. The partition tool just formats any partition after the primary system partition as extended by default.

Beware of this and defo make a backup unless you want to lose your data (in case you haven't backed up anything).

With Maya (Mint 13), one could just re-install the whole system without even touching the /home partition

Not a happy bunny right now
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Re: Installation Instructions

Postby Cosmo. on Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:01 pm

In general: Backups are always essential, regardless of what you do. A common word here says, that data, that are not backed-up are unimportant or even senseless data.

In case of great changes - as installing a new OS or OS version, backing up should always be the most crucial part.

Besides of that, I am astonished, that the old system worked at all. Seeing an Extended partition tells me, that you have an msdos-partition table (in difference to gpt). And in a msdos-table there can never be more than 4 primary partitions inclusive the extended partition, but your first picture shows 5 in total. (An extended partition is a special usage of a primary partition.) Further more a extended partition, can not contain any data - also no swap, as shown in the picture - directly, but only logical volumes.

Again, I am astonished how this could ever work. And the Mint installer seemed to wonder about the same question and corrected the wrong partition table.

One other thing that makes me wonder is the point, that partition 3 (previously Maya) has before and after the new install exactly the same amount of used space. That may be correct, but appears to me as really strange.

The third thing are the 2.26 GB data in /home after 10 minutes of installing. Maybe a leftover from the previous /home-partition, but I wonder, if the data is correctly stored. I would backup the whole machine and would make a complete new start.
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