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zerozero

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by zerozero »

hi Gene :wink:
you call it now for

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ddm -d

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zerozero@test-ups ~ $ ddm -d
INFO      Write debug information to file: /home/zerozero/ddm.log
INFO      Machine info: Linux version 3.2.0-4-amd64 (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Debian 4.6.3-12) ) #1 SMP Debian 3.2.32-1
INFO      DDM version: 0.5.0
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GeneC

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by GeneC »

zerozero wrote:hi Gene :wink:
you call it now for

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ddm -d
'zz'
Yes!
Your the MAN! :wink:

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14-12-2012 12:11:18 main                          INFO      Write debug information to file: /home/gene/ddm.log
14-12-2012 12:11:18 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: cat /proc/version
14-12-2012 12:11:18 main                          INFO      Machine info: Linux version 3.6.0-10.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64 (Debian 3.6.0-10) (damentz@liquorix.net) (gcc version 4.7.2 (Debian 4.7.2-4) ) #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT Wed Dec 12 03:35:17 UTC 2012
14-12-2012 12:11:18 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy ddm | grep Installed
14-12-2012 12:11:18 main                          INFO      DDM version: 0.5.0
14-12-2012 12:11:18 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: dpkg -s apt-listbugs | grep Status
14-12-2012 12:11:18 main                          WARNING   apt-listbugs is installed and might interfere with driver installation
14-12-2012 12:11:18 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: cat /proc/version
14-12-2012 12:11:18 main                          DEBUG     Startup command: gksu --message "<b>Please enter your password</b>" python /usr/lib/ddm/ddm.py :d :l /home/gene/ddm.log
14-12-2012 12:11:18 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy ddm | grep Installed
14-12-2012 12:11:18 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: cat /proc/version
14-12-2012 12:11:18 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: cat /etc/*-release | grep DISTRIB_RELEASE
14-12-2012 12:11:18 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: uname -r
14-12-2012 12:11:18 execcmd.run                   INFO      3.6.0-10.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64
14-12-2012 12:11:18 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: aptitude search linux-headers
14-12-2012 12:11:21 XorgConf.getUsedModule        INFO      Used graphics driver: nvidia
14-12-2012 12:11:23 broadcom.getUsedDriver        INFO      Used wireless driver: None
14-12-2012 12:11:23 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: dpkg -S nvidia_drv
14-12-2012 12:11:23 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache rdepends dpkg-query | grep "^ "
14-12-2012 12:11:23 ddm.main                      DEBUG     Used drivers: [['graphics', 'nvidia']]
14-12-2012 12:11:23 ddm.main                      INFO      Checking your hardware...
14-12-2012 12:11:23 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: uname -r
14-12-2012 12:11:23 execcmd.run                   INFO      3.6.0-10.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64
14-12-2012 12:11:23 drivers.DriverCheck           DEBUG     Initialize DriverCheck
14-12-2012 12:11:23 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: lspci -nn | grep VGA
14-12-2012 12:11:23 ddm.getHardwareInfo           DEBUG     Check every 5 seconds if thread is still active
14-12-2012 12:11:23 drivers.DriverCheck           DEBUG     Initialize DriverCheck
14-12-2012 12:11:23 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: lspci -nn | grep VGA
14-12-2012 12:11:23 ddm.getHardwareInfo           DEBUG     Check every 5 seconds if thread is still active
14-12-2012 12:11:23 drivers.DriverCheck           DEBUG     Initialize DriverCheck
14-12-2012 12:11:23 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: lspci -nn | grep VGA
14-12-2012 12:11:23 ddm.getHardwareInfo           DEBUG     Check every 5 seconds if thread is still active
14-12-2012 12:11:23 drivers.DriverCheck           DEBUG     Initialize DriverCheck
14-12-2012 12:11:24 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: lspci -nn | grep VGA
14-12-2012 12:11:24 ddm.getHardwareInfo           DEBUG     Check every 5 seconds if thread is still active
14-12-2012 12:11:24 drivers.DriverCheck           DEBUG     Initialize DriverCheck
14-12-2012 12:11:24 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: lspci | grep Broadcom
14-12-2012 12:11:24 ddm.getHardwareInfo           DEBUG     Check every 5 seconds if thread is still active
14-12-2012 12:11:24 drivers.DriverCheck           DEBUG     Initialize DriverCheck
14-12-2012 12:11:24 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy nvidia-detect | grep Installed
14-12-2012 12:11:24 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: cat /etc/*-release | grep DISTRIB_RELEASE
14-12-2012 12:11:24 ddm.getHardwareInfo           DEBUG     Check every 5 seconds if thread is still active
14-12-2012 12:11:24 nvidia.init                   INFO      Update apt
14-12-2012 12:11:24 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-get update
14-12-2012 12:11:24 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: uname -r
14-12-2012 12:11:24 execcmd.run                   INFO      3.6.0-10.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64
14-12-2012 12:11:24 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: aptitude search linux-headers
14-12-2012 12:11:26 pae.getPae                    DEBUG     Distribution: debian 1.0
14-12-2012 12:11:26 pae.needCheckForPae           DEBUG     Already a PAE system or AMD64
14-12-2012 12:11:29 execcmd.run                   INFO      Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease
14-12-2012 12:11:29 execcmd.run                   INFO      Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian InRelease
14-12-2012 12:11:29 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg
14-12-2012 12:11:29 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://liquorix.net sid InRelease
14-12-2012 12:11:29 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://dl.google.com stable Release
14-12-2012 12:11:29 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:1 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian Release.gpg [197 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:29 execcmd.run                   INFO      Ign http://www.duinsoft.nl debs InRelease
14-12-2012 12:11:29 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:2 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian Release [15.6 kB]
14-12-2012 12:11:29 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages
14-12-2012 12:11:29 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://liquorix.net sid/main amd64 Packages
14-12-2012 12:11:29 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://dl.google.com stable/main i386 Packages
14-12-2012 12:11:29 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://www.duinsoft.nl debs Release.gpg
14-12-2012 12:11:29 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://liquorix.net sid/main i386 Packages
14-12-2012 12:11:30 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org unstable InRelease [227 kB]
14-12-2012 12:11:30 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:4 http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid InRelease [32.8 kB]
14-12-2012 12:11:30 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://www.duinsoft.nl debs Release
14-12-2012 12:11:30 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:5 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main Sources [15.7 kB]
14-12-2012 12:11:30 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://www.duinsoft.nl debs/all amd64 Packages
14-12-2012 12:11:30 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://www.duinsoft.nl debs/all i386 Packages
14-12-2012 12:11:30 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:6 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream Sources [2,182 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:30 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:7 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/incoming Sources [7,545 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:30 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
14-12-2012 12:11:30 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:8 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/backport Sources [20 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:30 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
14-12-2012 12:11:30 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:9 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/romeo Sources [4,146 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:30 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex
14-12-2012 12:11:30 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:10 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import Sources [27.1 kB]
14-12-2012 12:11:31 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/non-free i386 Packages/DiffIndex
14-12-2012 12:11:31 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:11 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main amd64 Packages [17.3 kB]
14-12-2012 12:11:31 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:12 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex [7,876 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:31 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:13 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream amd64 Packages [5,387 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:31 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:14 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/incoming amd64 Packages [47.3 kB]
14-12-2012 12:11:31 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://http.us.debian.org unstable/contrib amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
14-12-2012 12:11:31 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://http.us.debian.org unstable/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
14-12-2012 12:11:31 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:15 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/backport amd64 Packages [20 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:31 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:16 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/romeo amd64 Packages [5,398 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:31 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:17 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import amd64 Packages [63.7 kB]
14-12-2012 12:11:32 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:18 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex [7,876 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:32 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:19 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main i386 Packages [17.4 kB]
14-12-2012 12:11:32 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:20 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream i386 Packages [5,383 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:32 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://http.us.debian.org unstable/contrib i386 Packages/DiffIndex
14-12-2012 12:11:32 execcmd.run                   INFO      Hit http://http.us.debian.org unstable/non-free i386 Packages/DiffIndex
14-12-2012 12:11:32 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:21 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/incoming i386 Packages [47.2 kB]
14-12-2012 12:11:32 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:22 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main amd64 2012-12-14-1410.21.pdiff [2,428 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:32 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:23 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main amd64 2012-12-14-1410.21.pdiff [2,428 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:32 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:24 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main i386 2012-12-14-1410.21.pdiff [2,410 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:32 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:25 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/backport i386 Packages [20 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:32 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:26 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/romeo i386 Packages [5,401 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:33 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:27 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import i386 Packages [63.3 kB]
14-12-2012 12:11:33 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:28 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main i386 2012-12-14-1410.21.pdiff [2,410 B]
14-12-2012 12:11:40 execcmd.run                   INFO      Fetched 631 kB in 10s (59.9 kB/s)
14-12-2012 12:11:42 execcmd.run                   INFO      Reading package lists...
14-12-2012 12:11:42 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: dpkg -s nvidia-detect | grep Status
14-12-2012 12:11:42 nvidia.init                   INFO      Install nvidia-detect
14-12-2012 12:11:42 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-get -y --force-yes install nvidia-detect
14-12-2012 12:11:42 execcmd.run                   INFO      Reading package lists...
14-12-2012 12:11:43 execcmd.run                   INFO      Building dependency tree...
14-12-2012 12:11:43 execcmd.run                   INFO      Reading state information...
14-12-2012 12:11:43 execcmd.run                   INFO      The following NEW packages will be installed:
14-12-2012 12:11:43 execcmd.run                   INFO      nvidia-detect
14-12-2012 12:11:48 execcmd.run                   INFO      0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
14-12-2012 12:11:48 execcmd.run                   INFO      Need to get 93.9 kB of archives.
14-12-2012 12:11:48 execcmd.run                   INFO      After this operation, 161 kB of additional disk space will be used.
14-12-2012 12:11:48 execcmd.run                   INFO      Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/non-free nvidia-detect amd64 304.64-2 [93.9 kB]
14-12-2012 12:11:56 execcmd.run                   INFO      dpkg-preconfigure: unable to re-open stdin: No such file or directory
14-12-2012 12:11:56 execcmd.run                   INFO      Fetched 93.9 kB in 5s (17.0 kB/s)
14-12-2012 12:11:56 execcmd.run                   INFO      Selecting previously unselected package nvidia-detect.
14-12-2012 12:11:57 execcmd.run                   INFO      (Reading database ... 
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(Reading database ... 181424 files and directories currently installed.)
14-12-2012 12:11:57 execcmd.run                   INFO      Unpacking nvidia-detect (from .../nvidia-detect_304.64-2_amd64.deb) ...
14-12-2012 12:11:58 execcmd.run                   INFO      Setting up nvidia-detect (304.64-2) ...
14-12-2012 12:12:00 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: nvidia-detect | grep nvidia- | tr -d ' '
14-12-2012 12:12:00 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
14-12-2012 12:12:00 drivers.getPackageStatus      DEBUG     Package is installed: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
14-12-2012 12:12:00 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-nouveau | grep Candidate
14-12-2012 12:12:00 nvidia.getNvidia              INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (installed)
14-12-2012 12:12:00 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
14-12-2012 12:12:01 drivers.getPackageStatus      DEBUG     Package is installed: xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
14-12-2012 12:12:01 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev | grep Candidate
14-12-2012 12:12:01 nvidia.getNvidia              INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-fbdev (installed)
14-12-2012 12:12:01 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-vesa
14-12-2012 12:12:01 drivers.getPackageStatus      DEBUG     Package is installed: xserver-xorg-video-vesa
14-12-2012 12:12:01 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-vesa | grep Candidate
14-12-2012 12:12:01 nvidia.getNvidia              INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-vesa (installed)
14-12-2012 12:12:01 nvidia.getNvidia              DEBUG     No Nvidia card found
14-12-2012 12:12:01 XorgConf.getManufacturerModulesDEBUG     Modules for nvidia: ['nvidia', 'nouveau', 'fbdev', 'vesa']
14-12-2012 12:12:01 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Manufacturer image path: /usr/share/ddm/nvidia.png
14-12-2012 12:12:01 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Manufacturer image path: /usr/share/ddm/nvidia.png
14-12-2012 12:12:01 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Manufacturer image path: /usr/share/ddm/nvidia.png
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create list store eval string: gtk.ListStore(bool, str, str, str, str, int)
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Activate
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Driver
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Version
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Description
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): hwCode
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column names: ['Activate', 'Driver', 'Version', 'Description', 'hwCode']
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name: skip first item
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Add data to list store: liststore.append( [False, "xserver-xorg-video-nouveau", "1:1.0.1", "Nouveau display driver (recommended)", "nvidia", 400] )
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Add data to list store: liststore.append( [False, "xserver-xorg-video-fbdev", "1:0.4.2", "Framebuffer display driver", "nvidia", 400] )
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Add data to list store: liststore.append( [False, "xserver-xorg-video-vesa", "1:2.3.1", "Vesa display driver", "nvidia", 400] )
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Last visible column nr: 3
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Activate", gtk.CellRendererToggle(), active=0)
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Check box found: add toggle function
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Activate
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Driver", gtk.CellRendererText(), text=1, weight=5)
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Driver
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Version", gtk.CellRendererText(), text=2, weight=5)
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Version
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Description", gtk.CellRendererText(), text=3, weight=5)
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Last column fills treeview: 3
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Description
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Hide column nr: 4
14-12-2012 12:12:01 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Add Liststrore to Treeview
EDIT:
Sorry Schoelje. We cross post and I did not see your new explanation... :oops:
Last edited by GeneC on Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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zerozero

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by zerozero »

hi Schoelje,
i have here an interesting error :lol:
it's the first time i see it but thinking about it it can/could be a lot more frequent in mint

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zerozero@test-ups ~ $ ddm -d
INFO      Write debug information to file: /home/zerozero/ddm.log
INFO      Machine info: Linux version 3.2.0-4-amd64 (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Debian 4.6.3-12) ) #1 SMP Debian 3.2.32-1
INFO      DDM version: 0.5.0
INFO      3.2.0-4-amd64
INFO      Used graphics driver: nvidia
INFO      Used wireless driver: ath
INFO      Checking your hardware...
INFO      3.2.0-4-amd64
INFO      3.2.0-4-amd64
INFO      Update apt
INFO      Err http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports InRelease
INFO      Install nvidia-detect
INFO      E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
INFO      E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
INFO      /bin/sh: 1: nvidia-detect: not found
INFO      Nvidia driver found: /bin/sh: 1: nvidia-detect: not found (notinstalled)
INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (installed)
INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-fbdev (installed)
INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-vesa (installed)
- MU runs once every 15 minutes (default settings);
- if ddm runs at the same time, nvidia-detect is not installed (obviously)
full log here >> http://pastebin.com/pxU2HsvP

as i said this should be one in a million chance but the worrying part is that all would be silent (MU runs silently, ddm would fail silently because most users are not gonna use it in debug mode)
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Schoelje

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by Schoelje »

GeneC wrote:

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gene@zordon:~$ device-driver-manager -d
device-driver-manager: command not found
GeneC, try to start with

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ddm -d
I think that would help!

Did you also run the script (or at least not having Plymouth starting at boot)?
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Schoelje

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by Schoelje »

zerozero wrote:as i said this should be one in a million change but the worrying part is that all would be silent (MU runs silently, ddm would fail silently because most users are not gonna use it in debug mode)
So, when starting I will have to check if I can get a lock on /var/lib/dpkg/lock.
That shouldn't be to difficult.
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bimsebasse

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by bimsebasse »

Schoelje wrote:
bimsebasse wrote:New version working fine here (detecting fine, at least!). Are you gonna call it Device Driver Manager instead of DDM when it's production ready? The black icon almost disappears in the Mint 14 Cinnamon menu, a subtle light grey border would outline it on dark backgrounds.
Ah, I see what you mean. It'll be "Device Driver Manager", but starting from terminal will be "ddm".
I'm not much of a designer, so if you feel like you can improve the icon (or tell me how I can do it in Gimp)...
I mean in menus, DDM is a bit non-descriptive :D

Tried adding a border to the logo but tbh it looked horrible so nevermind! If anyone uses DDM in gnome shell, the icon will more or less disappear against the dark backdrop of the dash, for instance.
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GeneC

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by GeneC »

Schoelje wrote:..............Did you also run the script (or at least not having Plymouth starting at boot)?
Do not have Plymouth installed, not something I want.... :)
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Schoelje

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by Schoelje »

@zerozero:
I've added a function to check whether or not /var/lib/dpkg/lock is locked.
It shows a dialog when it's locked and quits the program or quits installation if you locked the file after starting DDM.

You can re-download the same deb file if you want to try it out:
http://schoelje.nl/lmdekde/packages/ddm ... a2_all.deb
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zerozero

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by zerozero »

Schoelje the deb you posted just above is more verbose in the terminal but no warnings in the gui (or shouldn't i expect one?)
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zerozero@test-ups ~ $ ddm -d
INFO      Write debug information to file: /home/zerozero/ddm.log
INFO      Machine info: Linux version 3.2.0-4-amd64 (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Debian 4.6.3-12) ) #1 SMP Debian 3.2.32-1
INFO      DDM version: 0.5.0
INFO      3.2.0-4-amd64
INFO      Used graphics driver: nvidia
INFO      Used wireless driver: ath
INFO      Checking your hardware...
INFO      3.2.0-4-amd64
INFO      3.2.0-4-amd64
INFO      Update apt
INFO      E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
INFO      E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
INFO      E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
INFO      E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
INFO      Install nvidia-detect
INFO      E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
INFO      E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
INFO      /bin/sh: 1: nvidia-detect: not found
INFO      Nvidia driver found: /bin/sh: 1: nvidia-detect: not found (notinstalled)
INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (installed)
INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-fbdev (installed)
INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-vesa (installed)
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Schoelje

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by Schoelje »

zerozero wrote:Schoelje the deb you posted just above is more verbose in the terminal but no warnings in the gui (or shouldn't i expect one?)
My bad! I've accidentally uploaded the new deb to the wrong directory.
I changed the file name so it should work now.
http://schoelje.nl/lmdekde/packages/ddm ... a3_all.deb
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zerozero

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by zerozero »

:lol: this detail is solved
Image
let's now test the serious business

lmde-up6 [switching from nvidia to nouveau]
step 1

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zerozero@test-ups ~ $ inxi -Gx
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G92 [GeForce GTS 250] bus-ID: 01:00.0 X.Org: 1.12.4 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1440x900@59.9hz 
           GLX Renderer: GeForce GTS 250/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 304.48 Direct Rendering: Yes

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zerozero@test-ups ~ $ ddm -d
INFO      Write debug information to file: /home/zerozero/ddm.log
INFO      Machine info: Linux version 3.2.0-4-amd64 (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Debian 4.6.3-12) ) #1 SMP Debian 3.2.32-1
INFO      DDM version: 0.5.0
INFO      3.2.0-4-amd64
INFO      Used graphics driver: nvidia
INFO      Used wireless driver: ath
INFO      Checking your hardware...
INFO      3.2.0-4-amd64
INFO      Update apt
INFO      3.2.0-4-amd64
INFO      Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian InRelease
INFO      Get:1 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian Release.gpg [197 B]
INFO      Get:2 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian Release [15.6 kB]
INFO      Ign http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports InRelease
INFO      Get:3 http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports Release.gpg [828 B]
INFO      Hit http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports Release
INFO      Ign http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports Release
INFO      Ign http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
INFO      Ign http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release i386 Packages/DiffIndex
INFO      Get:4 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main Sources [15.7 kB]
INFO      Get:5 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream Sources [2,182 B]
INFO      Get:6 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import Sources [27.1 kB]
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing InRelease
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/updates InRelease
INFO      Get:7 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/incoming Sources [7,545 B]
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing InRelease
INFO      Hit http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release amd64 Packages
INFO      Hit http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release i386 Packages
INFO      Get:8 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/backport Sources [20 B]
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
INFO      Get:9 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/romeo Sources [4,146 B]
INFO      Get:10 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main amd64 Packages [17.3 kB]
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/contrib amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex
INFO      Ign http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release Translation-en_GB
INFO      Ign http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release Translation-en
INFO      Get:11 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream amd64 Packages [5,387 B]
INFO      Get:12 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import amd64 Packages [63.7 kB]
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/contrib i386 Packages/DiffIndex
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/non-free i386 Packages/DiffIndex
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/contrib Translation-en/DiffIndex
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/main Translation-en/DiffIndex
INFO      Get:13 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/incoming amd64 Packages [47.3 kB]
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/non-free Translation-en/DiffIndex
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/updates/main amd64 Packages
INFO      Get:14 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/backport amd64 Packages [20 B]
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/updates/contrib amd64 Packages
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/updates/non-free amd64 Packages
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/updates/main i386 Packages
INFO      Get:15 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/romeo amd64 Packages [5,398 B]
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/updates/contrib i386 Packages
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/updates/non-free i386 Packages
INFO      Get:16 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main i386 Packages [17.4 kB]
INFO      Get:17 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream i386 Packages [5,383 B]
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
INFO      Get:18 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import i386 Packages [63.3 kB]
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex
INFO      Hit http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/non-free i386 Packages/DiffIndex
INFO      Get:19 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/incoming i386 Packages [47.2 kB]
INFO      Get:20 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/backport i386 Packages [20 B]
INFO      Get:21 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/romeo i386 Packages [5,401 B]
INFO      Ign http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/updates/contrib Translation-en_GB
INFO      Ign http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/updates/contrib Translation-en
INFO      Ign http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/updates/main Translation-en_GB
INFO      Ign http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/updates/main Translation-en
INFO      Ign http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/updates/non-free Translation-en_GB
INFO      Ign http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/updates/non-free Translation-en
INFO      Ign http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/main Translation-en_GB
INFO      Ign http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/main Translation-en
INFO      Ign http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/non-free Translation-en_GB
INFO      Ign http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr testing/non-free Translation-en
INFO      Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/backport Translation-en_GB
INFO      Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/backport Translation-en
INFO      Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import Translation-en_GB
INFO      Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import Translation-en
INFO      Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/incoming Translation-en_GB
INFO      Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/incoming Translation-en
INFO      Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main Translation-en_GB
INFO      Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main Translation-en
INFO      Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/romeo Translation-en_GB
INFO      Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/romeo Translation-en
INFO      Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream Translation-en_GB
INFO      Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream Translation-en
INFO      Fetched 351 kB in 28s (12.3 kB/s)
INFO      Reading package lists...
INFO      W: GPG error: http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 85A3D26506C4AE2A
INFO      Install nvidia-detect
INFO      Reading package lists...
INFO      Building dependency tree...
INFO      Reading state information...
INFO      The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
INFO      libebackend-1.2-2 libedata-book-1.2-13 libedata-cal-1.2-15
INFO      Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
INFO      The following NEW packages will be installed:
INFO      nvidia-detect
INFO      dpkg-preconfigure: unable to re-open stdin: No such file or directory
INFO      0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
INFO      Need to get 0 B/91.0 kB of archives.
INFO      After this operation, 118 kB of additional disk space will be used.
INFO      Selecting previously unselected package nvidia-detect.
(Reading database ... 212645 files and directories currently installed.)
INFO      Unpacking nvidia-detect (from .../nvidia-detect_304.48-1_amd64.deb) ...
INFO      Setting up nvidia-detect (304.48-1) ...
INFO      nvidia-glx
INFO      Nvidia driver found: nvidia-glx (installed)
INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (installed)
INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-fbdev (installed)
INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-vesa (installed)
INFO      nvidia-glx
INFO      Switch to module: nouveau
INFO      New xorg.conf written
INFO      Driver installed: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
step 2
never Husse was so right on his quotes :shock:
Screenshot-5.png
swapping from nvidia to nouveau works as expected (no plymouth here, will get there)

step 3
go back to nvidia

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zerozero@test-ups ~ $ inxi -Gx
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G92 [GeForce GTS 250] bus-ID: 01:00.0 X.Org: 1.12.4 driver: nouveau Resolution: 1440x900@59.9hz 
           GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A Direct Rendering: N/A
zerozero@test-ups ~ $ ddm -d
INFO      Write debug information to file: /home/zerozero/ddm.log
INFO      Machine info: Linux version 3.2.0-4-amd64 (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Debian 4.6.3-12) ) #1 SMP Debian 3.2.32-1
INFO      DDM version: 0.5.0
INFO      3.2.0-4-amd64
INFO      Used graphics driver: nouveau
INFO      Used wireless driver: ath
INFO      Checking your hardware...
INFO      3.2.0-4-amd64
INFO      3.2.0-4-amd64
INFO      nvidia-glx
INFO      Nvidia driver found: nvidia-glx (installed)
INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (installed)
INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-fbdev (installed)
INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-vesa (installed)
INFO      nvidia-glx
INFO      Switch to module: nvidia
INFO      Driver installed: nvidia-glx
closing down this bit

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zerozero@test-ups ~ $ inxi -Gx
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G92 [GeForce GTS 250] bus-ID: 01:00.0 X.Org: 1.12.4 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1440x900@59.9hz 
           GLX Renderer: GeForce GTS 250/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 304.48 Direct Rendering: Yes
zerozero@test-ups ~ $
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Schoelje

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by Schoelje »

@zerozero
So, if I understand you right, switching from nvidia to nouveau and back to nvidia again went as expected?
How did the wireless and kernel part go?

In the mean time I started to adapt Debian Plymouth Manager:
Image
Last edited by Schoelje on Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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zerozero

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by zerozero »

yep, Schoelje,
regarding nvidia/nouveau all as expected
(in this box i don't have broadcom and this was a 64bit install so i couldn't check those items)
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Schoelje

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by Schoelje »

Has anyone been able to test this with ATI, Intel, even VIA cards?
I've been switching away on my machine without a problem, but as you know, I only have nvidia.

Broadcom switching works, but I had a problem once.
It could have been a one time glitch, but I'd like to hear it from you.

If DDM is done (or at least stable enough), I want to include it with the new Debian Plymouth Manager in LMDE KDE UP6.
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zerozero

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by zerozero »

i have a problem here:
raring 32bit installed in the laptop with intel and broadcom (perfect scenario); i can't run ddm, it always gives Could not get lock on /var/lib/dpkg/lock.
always! no matter what i do, even if right after i use apt and it's unlocked

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17-12-2012 00:03:21 main                          INFO      Write debug information to file: /home/zerozero/ddm.log
17-12-2012 00:03:21 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: cat /proc/version
17-12-2012 00:03:21 main                          INFO      Machine info: Linux version 3.5.0-20-generic (buildd@aatxe) (gcc version 4.7.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.2-2ubuntu1) ) #31-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 13:29:58 UTC 2012
17-12-2012 00:03:21 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy ddm | grep Installed
17-12-2012 00:03:21 main                          INFO      DDM version: 0.5.0
17-12-2012 00:03:21 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: dpkg -s apt-listbugs | grep Status
17-12-2012 00:03:21 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: cat /proc/version
17-12-2012 00:03:21 main                          DEBUG     Startup command: gksu --message "<b>Please enter your password</b>" python /usr/lib/ddm/ddm.py :d :l /home/zerozero/ddm.log
17-12-2012 00:03:21 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
and was also perfect timing because the last 3.7 kernel broke broadcom.
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Schoelje

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by Schoelje »

zerozero wrote:i have a problem here:
raring 32bit installed in the laptop with intel and broadcom (perfect scenario); i can't run ddm, it always gives Could not get lock on /var/lib/dpkg/lock.
always! no matter what i do, even if right after i use apt and it's unlocked

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17-12-2012 00:03:21 main                          INFO      Write debug information to file: /home/zerozero/ddm.log
17-12-2012 00:03:21 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: cat /proc/version
17-12-2012 00:03:21 main                          INFO      Machine info: Linux version 3.5.0-20-generic (buildd@aatxe) (gcc version 4.7.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.2-2ubuntu1) ) #31-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 13:29:58 UTC 2012
17-12-2012 00:03:21 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy ddm | grep Installed
17-12-2012 00:03:21 main                          INFO      DDM version: 0.5.0
17-12-2012 00:03:21 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: dpkg -s apt-listbugs | grep Status
17-12-2012 00:03:21 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: cat /proc/version
17-12-2012 00:03:21 main                          DEBUG     Startup command: gksu --message "<b>Please enter your password</b>" python /usr/lib/ddm/ddm.py :d :l /home/zerozero/ddm.log
17-12-2012 00:03:21 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
and was also perfect timing because the last 3.7 kernel broke broadcom.
The last command that is being executed checks if there is a lock.
What does it return when you run this in the terminal?

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lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
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zerozero

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by zerozero »

outputs

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zerozero@zerozero-at-nadia:~$ sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[sudo] password for zerozero: 
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/zerozero/gvfs
      Output information may be incomplete.
i tried to look at the fuse and gvfs lib installed but at first sight there's no difference to lmde-up6 (where it is working as expected >> but i can be looking in the wrong place)
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Schoelje

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by Schoelje »

zerozero wrote:outputs

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zerozero@zerozero-at-nadia:~$ sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[sudo] password for zerozero: 
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/zerozero/gvfs
      Output information may be incomplete.
i tried to look at the fuse and gvfs lib installed but at first sight there's no difference to lmde-up6 (where it is working as expected >> but i can be looking in the wrong place)
I couldn't reproduce your issue, but the output was a hint that I had to better catch the output of lsof.
A warning is not something to worry about, however, the function handling lsof only expected to get something returned from lsof when there is a lock and if it gets nothing returned, it assumed there was no lock.
So, I changed the function to check in lsof's output for the locked file. If it finds the path to the locked file, the file is locked:

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$ sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
COMMAND   PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF   NODE NAME
synaptic 4867 root   15uW  REG    8,1        0 964194 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
Could you try it again?
http://schoelje.nl/lmdekde/packages/ddm ... a3_all.deb
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zerozero

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by zerozero »

yeahh this!
with that new version it works

output of running ddm without any other pkg manager openned

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zerozero@zerozero-at-nadia:~$ ddm -d
INFO      Write debug information to file: /home/zerozero/ddm.log
INFO      Machine info: Linux version 3.5.0-20-generic (buildd@aatxe) (gcc version 4.7.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.2-2ubuntu1) ) #31-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 13:29:58 UTC 2012
INFO      DDM version: 0.5.0
INFO      Used graphics driver: intel
INFO      Used wireless driver: ath
INFO      Checking your hardware...
INFO      3.5.0-20-generic
INFO      0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
INFO      Intel card found: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
INFO      Broadcom found: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
INFO      0c:00.0 0280: 14e4:4315 (rev 01)
INFO      Broadcom chip serie found: 4315
INFO      3.5.0-20-generic
INFO      Intel driver found: xserver-xorg-video-intel (installed)
INFO      Intel driver found: xserver-xorg-video-fbdev (installed)
INFO      Intel driver found: xserver-xorg-video-vesa (installed)
with synaptic openned

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zerozero@zerozero-at-nadia:~$ ddm -d
INFO      Write debug information to file: /home/zerozero/ddm.log
INFO      Machine info: Linux version 3.5.0-20-generic (buildd@aatxe) (gcc version 4.7.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.2-2ubuntu1) ) #31-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 13:29:58 UTC 2012
INFO      DDM version: 0.5.0
zerozero@zerozero-at-nadia:~$ sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
COMMAND   PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF   NODE NAME
synaptic 5089 root   17uW  REG    8,3        0 131510 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
zerozero@zerozero-at-nadia:~$
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zerozero

Re: Device Driver Manager - Help needed

Post by zerozero »

not a clean broadcom handling in raring
when i open ddm i'm offered 2 options
Image
tried the first one (lpphy-installer) and no working broadcom afterwards
1ddm.doc
tried then the second option (bcmwl-kernel-source) and same as above (no working net)
2ddm.doc
note that in both situations after performing the driver selection and ddm give me the indication that the process was finished the option was still not ticked (as you can see in the shoot above)

i managed to make it work installing bcmwl-kernel-source tho synaptic
broadcom install.doc
the odd bit is that ddm *should* have done the same but failed

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zerozero@zerozero-at-nadia:~$ lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
09:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8040 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller [11ab:4354] (rev 13)
	Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:02aa]
	Kernel driver in use: sky2
--
0c:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
	Subsystem: Dell Wireless 1397 WLAN Mini-Card [1028:000c]
	Kernel driver in use: wl
zerozero@zerozero-at-nadia:~$
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