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Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby Dan232323 on Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:08 am

Hi! I installed Mint 16 Mate RC and it works fine, except that some of the letters in web pages "crumble" to an unreadable mess after a few seconds.
Scrolling fixes them, but then it happens again.
It only seems to happen on the external monitor, not on the notebook display.
Haven't seen anything like that before, it's really weird.

Hardware:
HP Elitebook 2530p
Intel Graphics
Core2 Duo 1,87 GHz
Acer monitor 1920x1080, connected via analog VGA on docking station
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby wayne128 on Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:22 am

Not sure if yours is similar to what I saw...

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=150934
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby Dan232323 on Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:37 am

yep. exactly like on my system.
do you use similar hardware?
notebook?
external monitor via VGA?
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby wayne128 on Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:44 am

Dan232323 wrote:yep. exactly like on my system.
do you use similar hardware?
notebook?
external monitor via VGA?


Totally different hardware.

Mine is HP-8000 CPU, Desktop, quad core Q8400
intel 4 graphic
external monitor via VGA.


I just have a hunch, from old memory some 1.5-2.5 year ago.
perhaps it might be related to theme.

you might like to try change another theme ( only three by default but you could install other popular themes) and see if firefox still randomly show garbled text.
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby Dan232323 on Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:53 am

will try that when I get home.
thanks!
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby dan2918237 on Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:05 pm

changing themes did not help.
any changes on your HP machine? :)

edit: weird. apparently I have 2 accounts on here.
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby wayne128 on Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:18 pm

I tried all three theme.

all have the same issue.
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby Dan232323 on Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:35 pm

this is kind of a showstopping bug.
now I will have to leave my favourite distro and go search for another debian-based distro with an old-school desktop.
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby yusufbolu on Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:46 am

Same problem with fonts. I can not take a screenshot because fonts are corrected when I press printscreen.

Edit: This time printscreen worked. Here are the screen shots:
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If my hardware info is requried please give me a code to get the info.
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby catfish12 on Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:49 pm

:roll: HI same promblem here with firefox 25.01 i have tried turning firefox hardware acceleration off
still happens from time to time iam using mint 16 Cinnamon finale release not RC hope bug fix soon
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby wayne128 on Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:51 pm

yusufbolu wrote:Same problem with fonts. I can not take a screenshot because fonts are corrected when I press printscreen.

If my hardware info is requried please give me a code to get the info.



Can you post your graphic card?

Use this command

inxi -Gx
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby catfish12 on Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:14 pm

Graphics: Card-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV730/M96-XT [Mobility Radeon HD 4670] bus-ID: 01:00.0
X.Org: 1.14.3 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) FAILED: intel Resolution: 1920x1080@60.0hz, 1920x1080@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 9.2.1 Direct Rendering: Yes


HI iam using the intel graphics on my laptop screen the ati will never work no linux driver ati radeon hd 4670
mint 15 oliva was fine with text iam very new to linux so not to clever with commands :wink: any help i would be grateful

also edit apple osx had this problem Safari-SL and crumbled text https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2135641
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby yusufbolu on Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:56 am

wayne128 wrote:
Can you post your graphic card?

Use this command

inxi -Gx


Here is my work computer.
Code: Select all
Graphics:  Card: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           X.Org: 1.14.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1600x900@59.9hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Desktop x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 9.2.1 Direct Rendering: Yes

Here is my home computer.
Code: Select all
Graphics:  Card: Intel 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           X.Org: 1.14.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1920x1080@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel G45/G43 x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 9.2.1 Direct Rendering: Yes


Both computers have the same problem.
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby catfish12 on Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:05 pm

hi :wink: try this post back any good results

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/961806
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby yusufbolu on Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:40 pm

catfish12 wrote:hi :wink: try this post back any good results

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/961806

Thanks for the advice, but it (disabling hardware acceleration in Firefox) didn't work. I don't think it is the same problem because the fonts in screenshots given in that post doesn't look like mine. Additionally, yesterday I saw the same problem in Writer. Although not as frequent as in Firefox, this seemed to me a system wide problem.
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumblo e" (Mint 16 Mate RC)ls

Postby catfish12 on Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:52 pm

Hi thanks for getting back to me system wide does not sound good
the problem also happens in cromium i tried :roll: i never had this problem in mint 15 oliva xfce
so hopefully when mint 16 xfce version is released it will be problem solved which version did you have before
chat soon
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby yusufbolu on Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:02 pm

I always used Gnome 2, then Mate. I tried Cinnamon, it has the same problem. Never seen anything like this before. I installed RCs and applied all the updates. Maybe I should install final version from the beginning.
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby catfish12 on Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:17 pm

ok try a fresh install of mint 16 finale /stable my install was from fresh but like i say xfce was cool but mint 16 problems check back and let me no
how you got on :wink:
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby stoptou on Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:21 am

Same issue here.
Linux Mint 16 64bit Cinnamon freshly installed yesterday + packages updated via "Update Manager".
I was running Mint 14 before and don't remember seeing the issue.

Config : Dell laptop 6400 with 2 external screens (VGA + DVI), the issue is happening in Firefox on both external screens (the laptop screen is closed).
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P9700 @ 2.80GHz
Code: Select all
>inxi -Gx
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           X.Org: 1.14.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x1024@60.0hz, 1280x1024@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 9.2.1 Direct Rendering: Yes

I have not installed any specific graphic driver, it's all from the default install.

The issue doesn't go away when scrolling the screen but it goes away if I select the text with the mouse (or if I select anywhere on the line).
Also typing/deleting text in this forum reply box make some "blurbs" happen in the lines/characters already typed. I can see them from the corner of my eye as I type but they get instantly corrected.
To reproduce : type a line of garbage text, you might see pixels being changed and fixed left from where you type.
Deleting the whole line with backspace also makes these small pixel issues happen and disappear.

I do not see a similar issue when using the Text Edtor.

Hope that helps...

Edit: just saw the same issue in a Terminal window (though much less frequently).
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Re: Fonts in Firefox "crumble" (Mint 16 Mate RC)

Postby wayne128 on Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:26 am

so far it seems a common thing

intel graphic..??
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