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Qiana: Cannot update mesa packages force uninstall cinnamon

Postby stardancer on Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:11 pm

I just did a fresh install of Qiana and went into synaptic to update everything. It will not let me update a number of packages related to Mesa without completing borking cinnamon.

Please see the attached screenshot for a list of the problematic files and the programs it wants to uninstall in order to update them. Sorry my system is in french but I think it is obvious (the packages in green are the ones available under "can be updated" and when I choose "select this packages for update", it brings up the window to the right that says "will have an effect on other packages" and requires me to uninstall ("désinstaller") all the packages in that window, which obviously I don't want to do).

The only thing I did after the fresh install was enable the proprietary nvidia driver.
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See here for problem files (mesa) and the programs it tries to uninstall.
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Re: Qiana: Cannot update mesa packages force uninstall cinna

Postby Monsta on Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:43 am

stardancer wrote:I just did a fresh install of Qiana and went into synaptic to update everything.

Yeah, that's why Linux Mint has a dedicated mintUpdate tool for performing package updates. Synaptic is not a reliable tool for that.
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Re: Qiana: Cannot update mesa packages force uninstall cinna

Postby stardancer on Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:31 am

Monsta wrote:Yeah, that's why Linux Mint has a dedicated mintUpdate tool for performing package updates. Synaptic is not a reliable tool for that.


Oh, thanks, I was scared to use it actually, in the past, I have found that most distros' individual package managers are less trustworthy and useful than synaptic/etc. Glad this is not the case for Qiana. Though it does make me wonder if there is not an error in the dependency settings for the packages? Does mintupdate just have a list of dependency flags to ignore?
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Re: Qiana: Cannot update mesa packages force uninstall cinna

Postby Monsta on Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:22 am

Yesterday Clem removed the ability to upgrade packages from Synaptic:

Removed the ability to upgrade packages (Synaptic isn't aware of safety levels and that's required for UI, but more importantly the selection of packages is buggy, the first CTRL+A for instance calls the resolver as if each package was to be upgraded individually as opposed to calling the upgrade on the selection as a whole. In the case of some updates, such as the recent mesa updates, this leads to the removal of clutter, and therefore totem and even Cinnamon.).

What I've highlighted is the possible cause of the issue you've stumbled upon.

On the other hand, mintUpdate correctly processes the whole selection of packages to update. After that, it calls Synaptic to perform the update. It is safe: Synaptic is only used as a tool to fetch the packages and apply the updates, not for performing the selection.
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Re: Qiana: Cannot update mesa packages force uninstall cinna

Postby eanfrid on Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:01 am

Yep. You can use any package manager to update/install any individual package but when it comes to global distro update/upgrades you should rely solely on mintupdate.
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Re: Qiana: Cannot update mesa packages force uninstall cinna

Postby stardancer on Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:36 am

Thanks! So helpful to know and makes sense regarding a group of updates! :)
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Re: Qiana: Cannot update mesa packages force uninstall cinna

Postby mr_raider on Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:44 pm

What does the command line say when you try to run apt-get upgrade?
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Re: Qiana: Cannot update mesa packages force uninstall cinna

Postby randiroo76073 on Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:45 pm

Mint update sucks, Synaptic is rendered useless in Mate 17 32/64 so the only thing that works right is apt-get update ! That's kinda sucky for a new release, mint update misses pkgs and I continually have to double back to apt-get. Yes I do have everything enabled in mint update, before you ask. When is the likelyhood of this being fixed ???
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Re: Qiana: Cannot update mesa packages force uninstall cinna

Postby fragsrox on Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:23 am

This is also messed up in mate distro too. tried both. I cannot use previous versions of applixcations in synaptic anymore as it will NOT allow downgrade. Totally stupid idea. They really have messed this up. If it works why change it. We seem to be heading down the windoze path. Freedome of choice is open source. At least i thought so. many new packages just dont work or many features are now gone. This really sux. I now have to look for a different distro. Really cheesed off.
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