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LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLVED>

Postby TheKernel on Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:31 pm

Four weeks ago I submitted a couple of posts re lack of success in connecting to headphones/speakers using Bluetooth in LM17, all of which worked OK in LM16. It seemed quite a few others were suffering similar problems.

Yesterday I thought I should try again and have downloaded LM17 again, added Blueman again and still no connection. All four sets of devices I tested (speakers, soundbars and headsets) appear to pair but then disconnect immediately in Blueman setup with 'stream failures'. So I tested them all from another laptop with Windows 8.1 - perfect!

Yes I could stay with LM16, yes i could try LM13 as was suggested ... but I find it both frustrating and disappointing that something that worked very well previously now does not work at all. Maybe I am missing the point here but is anything going to change in LM17 or the recommended Blueman?

EDIT - Thanks to jeremyB for the command 'pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover' ... after which devices pair and connect and stay connected!
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices

Postby dragondave59 on Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:49 pm

I'm having the same problem connecting a pair of Kitsound Manhattan headphones. They are registering in Blueman, but failing to connect properly either as just headphones or using the inbuilt microphone.

Is there an explanation anywhere as why it was necessary to have to install Blueman as they worked in LM16 on the standard bluetooth set-up?
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices

Postby jungle_boy on Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:58 pm

Besides blueman, do you installed obexftp?
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices

Postby TheKernel on Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:16 pm

Hi jungle_boy ... I saw nothing about this 'obexft' in the LM17instructiions - again as an admitted Linux neophyte, what is it and what can it do to connect Blueman to my headphones?
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices

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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLV

Postby Condorman on Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:48 am

TheKernel wrote:EDIT - Thanks to jeremyB for the command 'pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover' ... after which devices pair and connect and stay connected!


Can anyone help? I issued the above command as my Bluetooth is still not working after a kernel update, but I'm getting this:

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condorman@condorman ~ $ pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover
Failure: Module initialisation failed


What should I do to get this to work? Cheers all.
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLV

Postby gadr on Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:44 am

Hey, guys.

This command also worked for me.

If it helps, I have made a quick post with this solution in my blog[1]. Thanks!

[1]: http://blog.gadr.me/quick-tip-bluetooth ... iana-mate/
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLV

Postby dragondave59 on Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:38 am

gadr wrote:Hey, guys.

This command also worked for me.

If it helps, I have made a quick post with this solution in my blog[1]. Thanks!

[1]: http://blog.gadr.me/quick-tip-bluetooth ... iana-mate/


Thanks, that worked. It was funny that it picked up my headphones (KS Manhattan) as being Mono. I have to got > Sound Preferences > Hardware tab, click on the headphone section & change the setting to Hi Fidelity Playback (A2DP).
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLV

Postby Condorman on Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:53 pm

gadr wrote:Hey, guys.

This command also worked for me.

If it helps, I have made a quick post with this solution in my blog[1]. Thanks!

[1]: http://blog.gadr.me/quick-tip-bluetooth ... iana-mate/


Not quite the solution for me! See below:

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condorman@condorman ~ $ sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio-module-bluetooth bluetooth bluez-* bluez
[sudo] password for condorman:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting 'bluez-btsco' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez-gstreamer' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez-network' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez-compat' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'python-bluez' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez-cups' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez-utils' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez-pan' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez-alsa' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'python2.7-bluez' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez-gnome' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez-tools' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez-pcmcia-support' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez-serial' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez-dbg' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez-audio' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez-hcidump' for regex 'bluez-*'
Note, selecting 'bluez-input' for regex 'bluez-*'
Package 'bluez-input' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'bluez-network' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'bluez-serial' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'bluez-gnome' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'bluez-pan' is not installed, so not removed
Note, selecting 'python-bluez' instead of 'python2.7-bluez'
Package 'bluez-dbg' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'bluez-audio' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'bluez-btsco' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'bluez-compat' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'bluez-pcmcia-support' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'bluez-utils' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'python-bluez' is not installed, so not removed
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  alien at debugedit esound-common gir1.2-clutter-gst-2.0 glib-networking:i386
  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good:i386 gtk2-engines:i386 gtk2-engines-murrine:i386
  gtk2-engines-pixbuf:i386 ibus-gtk:i386 lib32z1 libaa1:i386 libao4:i386
  libaudio2:i386 libaudiofile1:i386 libavc1394-0:i386 libcairo-gobject2:i386
  libcanberra-gtk-module:i386 libcanberra-gtk0:i386 libcanberra0:i386
  libcupsfilters1:i386 libcupsimage2:i386 libcurl3:i386 libdbus-glib-1-2:i386
  libdv4:i386 libesd0:i386 libfluidsynth1:i386 libgail-common:i386
  libgail18:i386 libgconf-2-4:i386 libgdbm3:i386 libgettextpo0:i386
  libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0:i386 libgstreamer1.0-0:i386
  libgudev-1.0-0:i386 libibus-1.0-5:i386 libidn11:i386 libiec61883-0:i386
  libmad0:i386 libmikmod2:i386 libnspr4:i386 libnss3:i386 libodbc1:i386
  libpango1.0-0:i386 libpangox-1.0-0:i386 libpangoxft-1.0-0:i386
  libproxy1:i386 libpulse-mainloop-glib0:i386 libqt4-dbus:i386
  libqt4-declarative:i386 libqt4-designer:i386 libqt4-network:i386
  libqt4-opengl:i386 libqt4-qt3support:i386 libqt4-script:i386
  libqt4-scripttools:i386 libqt4-sql:i386 libqt4-svg:i386 libqt4-test:i386
  libqt4-xml:i386 libqt4-xmlpatterns:i386 libqtcore4:i386 libqtdbus4:i386
  libqtgui4:i386 libqtwebkit4:i386 libraw1394-11:i386 libreadline6:i386
  librpmbuild3 librpmsign1 librtmp0:i386 libsdl-image1.2:i386
  libsdl-mixer1.2:i386 libsdl-net1.2:i386 libshout3:i386
  libsoup-gnome2.4-1:i386 libsoup2.4-1:i386 libspeex1:i386 libssl1.0.0:i386
  libstdc++5:i386 libtag1-vanilla:i386 libtag1c2a:i386 libtdb1:i386
  libunistring0:i386 libwavpack1:i386 libwebp5:i386 libxaw7:i386 libxft2:i386
  libxmu6:i386 libxp6:i386 libxss1:i386 libxtst6:i386 libxv1:i386 lsb-core
  lsb-security m4 ncurses-term odbcinst odbcinst1debian2:i386 odbcinst1debian2
  pax rpm xaw3dg:i386
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED
  bluetooth* bluez* bluez-alsa:i386* bluez-alsa* bluez-cups* bluez-gstreamer*
  bluez-hcidump* bluez-tools* cinnamon* cinnamon-bluetooth*
  cinnamon-screensaver* gnome-bluetooth* gnome-user-share*
  google-earth-stable* ia32-libs* mint-meta-cinnamon* nemo* nemo-fileroller*
  nemo-preview* nemo-share* pulseaudio-module-bluetooth* qtsixa* sixad-gasia*
0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 23 to remove and 1 not to upgrade.
After this operation, 219 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n


It wanted to remove just too much stuff so I didn't feel this was safe for me to do. Plus I'm only trying to connect my mobile devices to my desktop to transfer files. I'm not trying to connect Bluetooth headphones or anything like that, so I'm not too sure it's the pulseaudio module that's proving my downfall here.

Anyone have any ideas? I even installed the newer kernels hoping for a fix but to no avail. Thanks all.
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLV

Postby JeremyB on Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:52 pm

I think you may need to install obexftp to transfer files
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLV

Postby Condorman on Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:45 pm

JeremyB wrote:I think you may need to install obexftp to transfer files


Yes I read this elsewhere and I do already have it installed. Made no difference!
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLV

Postby JeremyB on Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:02 am

Condorman wrote:
JeremyB wrote:I think you may need to install obexftp to transfer files


Yes I read this elsewhere and I do already have it installed. Made no difference!


I guess you have likely tried blueman also?
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLV

Postby Condorman on Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:16 pm

I did and it was the same, and thanks for your repsonses. :)

Starting to wonder whether it's the phone now. It's a Samsung Galaxy S2 running Jellybean 4.1.2 and as up to date as it can be. Can't seem to share files with it over Bluetooth, but when I connected my 2012 Nexus 7 it shared fine after an initial timeout error. Hmmm...
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLV

Postby Condorman on Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:44 am

Yup, it's definitely my stupid phone. Connects to Nexus 7 tablet just fine. Sorry for the fuss everyone. Time to update gadget!
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLV

Postby Condorman on Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:02 pm

I appreciate this is pretty boring for you all, but I did a factory reset on my phone this morning, and then updated everything and reloaded all my apps. Now, it seems to be working fine. :)

I'll leave you in peace now. :D

Thanks all. :)
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLV

Postby Architrave on Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:51 pm

Apparently, because of previous problems with Pulseaudio's handling of Bluetooth, Blueman unloads the module "module-bluetooth-discover" after it has been loaded by the Pulseaudio config file default.pa.

https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/issues/64

There is a modified version of Blueman being tested at the moment, which some think has solved the problem.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3176825/posts

This was posted on the 7th of July 2014 so the problem has been known about for some time. Can we have the updated version of Blueman anytime soon? I am getting really fed up with having to issue the "pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover" command every time I want to connect my BT headphones or speaker to my media PC.
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLV

Postby pshashi on Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:34 am

I am also having same problem.
My blue tooth speakers are identified but cant be paired. what should I do?
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLV

Postby Architrave on Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:23 am

pshashi wrote:I am also having same problem. My blue tooth speakers are identified but cant be paired. what should I do?


This doesn't sound like entirely the same problem. The OP could pair his headphones and other devices, as could I, but could not connect to an A2DP sink. In other words, they would not show up in Sound Preferences to enable music to be sent to them. The transfer of data works fine if connecting a mobile phone, etc. The problem has been identified as being in Blueman and a new version to fix it is in testing at this time. If you look back through the posts in this thread you will see that there is a temporary fix for this but it has to be done everytime you turn on or re-boot your computer.

If you cannot pair a Bluetooth device at all it may be worth searching on that or opening a new thread.

Sorry I can't help further.

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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLV

Postby deadline on Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:30 am

Ok I have followed all the workarounds in this thread and still nothing. I tried a kernel upgrade but sadly my computer's video card is too old and the module returns an error when trying to build it.

The command pactl list | grep -i module-bluetooth-discover returns nothing.

When I run the command pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover it fails.

I can't recall the command i used but I ran a command and module-bluetooth-discover showed up in red.

When I run dmesg | grep -i bluetooth I get the following:

[ 15.662000] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.17
[ 15.662072] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[ 15.662920] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[ 15.662925] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[ 15.662934] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[ 16.730198] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[ 16.730213] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[ 16.730221] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11
[ 17.048142] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
[ 17.048148] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast
[ 17.048158] Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized
[ 17.269449] Bluetooth: can't load firmware, may not work correctly


That last bit I assume is the problem. I'm guessing that module isn't loading and I need to know how to make it. Anyone have any idea what else I need to do? I'm having the same problem everyone else has, headset pairs but stream fails to connect. Used to work on an older version of mint, doesn't work on 17. At wits end, please help!
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Re: LM17 Qiana - Blueman stil not connecting my devices<SOLV

Postby JeremyB on Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:31 pm

deadline wrote:Ok I have followed all the workarounds in this thread and still nothing. I tried a kernel upgrade but sadly my computer's video card is too old and the module returns an error when trying to build it.

The command pactl list | grep -i module-bluetooth-discover returns nothing.

When I run the command pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover it fails.

I can't recall the command i used but I ran a command and module-bluetooth-discover showed up in red.

When I run dmesg | grep -i bluetooth I get the following:

[ 15.662000] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.17
[ 15.662072] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[ 15.662920] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[ 15.662925] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[ 15.662934] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[ 16.730198] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[ 16.730213] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[ 16.730221] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11
[ 17.048142] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
[ 17.048148] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast
[ 17.048158] Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized
[ 17.269449] Bluetooth: can't load firmware, may not work correctly


That last bit I assume is the problem. I'm guessing that module isn't loading and I need to know how to make it. Anyone have any idea what else I need to do? I'm having the same problem everyone else has, headset pairs but stream fails to connect. Used to work on an older version of mint, doesn't work on 17. At wits end, please help!


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