I don't. And I don't have to. Linux's package managers are far superior to this obsolete form of software distribution. It's just a waste of resources and pollutes the environment e.g. when one day you throw the CD away.freedom wrote: People no matter what the Linux community thinks, like to buy software on CD.
Please do some reading before you post a sentence like that, OK? "All Linux distros" is not about pleasing you or me, it is about Freedom ... The creators of one Linux distro choose to make things like this, others choose to make things like that ... It is their freedom to do so. And nobody is putting a gun to your head and saying BS like "Use Linux or else .... " -- You are free to use Linux if you want to. But you don't have to. You're just as free to continue using Windows or move to Apple and MacOS X. Linux is about having choice. Therefore sentences such as "all Linux distros need to have ... " are plain rubbish and quite idiotic because it totally contradicts what Linux is about.freedom wrote: All Linux distros need to have ...
Why do I need to buy a CD if I can download stuff for free????? Read above. The entire argument is quite .... ehm .... stupid Sorry to say sofreedom wrote: So that software can be sold at stores on CD, so that people can buy it
Now that's quite idiotic, wouldn't you agree? Maybe you'd wish to read about OS design and especially read about what an OS kernel is supposed to do and what not? Once you read that you'd have to ask yourself: What in the world is an installer application for user space apps doing in the kernel ???? Aha. You see? That's why nobody, especially not Linus Torvalds, has integrated such nonsense into the kernel - it simply does not belong therefreedom wrote: The installer for all distros needs to be a good safe one that is in the Linux kernel. That way it goes to all distros unless someone removes it.
Distros such as SUSE ship on DVD with all applications you'd ever need already on the DVD. Office suites? Check: Koffice, OpenOffice, Gnumeric, Abiword, tons of others. Just pick what you want during the installation. Or install them all if you want to and if your disk is big enough. Graphics programs? Check. GIMP, Inkscape, Krita, ImageMagick, and tons of others. Multimedia? Check. Amarok, k3b, RealPlayer, ... everything is there on the DVD. Programming? Check. Tons of compilers and programming languages are already there on the DVD.freedom wrote: Many Windows users don't have broad band. So your fine KPacage or Add/Remove does them no good because if the ISP were good enough to let them stay on line long enough to download something like OpenOffice.org it would take several days.
The way you formulated it: Yes. There are of course cases where I too need to buy a CD, e.g. in the case of commercial software which isn't free for download. But just because of that we don't need to have Linux changed upside down into another Windozefreedom wrote: To Linux gurus (you) buying CDs is old and useless,
You see, that's where you are wrong. Nobody is targetting the broad masses of Windows users Commercial vendors such as Red Hat, Novell/SUSE, Xandros and now Oracle are rather targetting the business users and their server rooms. The broad mass of Windows users just isn't ready yet it seems.freedom wrote: Those that should be the Linux target market feel this way.
You should talk to clem then ... Mint is his baby and this is his one-man-show. You could open a new thread with your suggestions in the "Feedback & Suggestions" sub-forum here ...freedom wrote: Mint is good, but it could be better is what I was saying.
You see, that's the problem You expect everything to behave and work like Windows .... and that just isn't going to happen.freedom wrote: But put this distro in front of 100 average windows users
See above It already has. It's just that you can't let go of that "setup.exe" idea which is not needed herefreedom wrote: it WILL have to have a good easy way to install software when it is NOT on line.
And I told you before it did not give an error just that there was a problemscorp123 wrote:You could have found the solution sooner if you had bothered to answer my question about what error you are experiencing
I nontheless enjoyed the philosophical discussion instead
Well, what precisely did it say? Or what precisely do you do to receive whatever reaction you get from your system? My crystal ball is down for maintenance so I can't look into it and watch what you do ... you'll have to use your keyboard and try to explain it to me, using the most precise descriptions you're capable of, OK?freedom wrote: And I told you before it did not give an error just that there was a problem
Maybe just some icons missing? Can you open a terminal (e.g. "Konsole" in KDE; "GNOME Terminal" in GNOME ...) please and do the following:freedom wrote: And just so you know the instructions given in the other post only installed the OpenOffice Printer Administration function and NOT OpenOffice.org so I still am without OO.o
With patiencefreedom wrote: So since Mint will not tell me what the issue is and ONLY that there is an issue. How do you propose I go about this?
You pressed ENTER .... you were not supposed to press ENTER ... just TAB a few times, not ENTER ...freedom wrote:Opened console and typed oo as requested this is what it gave me.
bash: oo: command not found
scorp123 wrote:You pressed ENTER .... you were not supposed to press ENTER ... just TAB a few times, not ENTER ...freedom wrote:Opened console and typed oo as requested this is what it gave me.
bash: oo: command not found
oo + TAB TAB TAB (not ENTER!)
Doesn't look like it because the system responded with "bash: oo: command not found" ... This definitely means that you hit the Enter key and thus entered "oo" as command ... which the system of course doesn't know anything aboutfreedom wrote: Wrong I pressed tab.
freedom wrote:mike@mike-desktop:~$ oo
now it just beeps at me.
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
Did you test this? Please send a PM to clem then so he can fix this bug ...Flatline wrote:http://www.linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15875
Doesn't work for the KDE edition, but for the "normal" edition it works fine. I am surprised that an apt-get doesn't work (that's a BIG bug right there), but for some reason it doesn't.
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