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Postby K3k1985 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:18 pm

Hi,
Iḿ new around here, and Mint, itś my first expirience as a Linux user. I was Windows user for more than 10 years, but now i am fed up with it, so Linux was my choice.
Well, my problem is, how to install new software downloaded from web? With Windows it was so easy you just have to follow the steps, but it s not the same with Linux apperently...
Can you help me step by step how to do it?
Thank you for your support!
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Re: install programs

Postby chad1 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:37 pm

You made a really good choice switching to Linux!

Well, you can open a Terminal and do:
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sudo apt-get install 'program name'


Or you can use mintInstall.

Its even easier to install programs in Ubuntu than in Windows

A good one is Synaptic Package Manager
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Re: install programs

Postby viking777 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:38 pm

Hi K3k1985. Welcome.

As a brand new Mint user your best bet by far is to open the start menu and look for Mint Install. The first time you use it it takes a long time as it downloads a lot of information about various programs. When it has done this once it will start up much more quickly the second time. Anyway, leave it to do its download and when it has finished you will find details of about 450+ programs that you can install to your hearts content.

If that isn't enough for you then you need 'Synaptic' which is also lurking in the start menu. How many packages you have in here depends how you have it set up but at the moment I have about 26,500 listed - that should keep you going :lol:

But start with Mint Install.
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Re: install programs

Postby rivenought on Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:43 pm

The easiest way to add new software to your Mint installation is either via Synaptic Package Manager or mintInstall.

The first time you run mintInstall, it has to download lots of pictures and descriptions, so 15 to 30 minutes may not be unusual depending on your Internet connection. If you are really new to Linux, mintInstall will help you in your decision-making process since all the different application names and features might be confusing.

If you already know what you want, you can use Synaptic Package Manager to download and install what you want. Synaptic works fairly quickly, and I tend to use it regularly.

As you get more familiar with Linux, you may move on up to the command-line installations. Linux has all features available in different ways depending on your skill level.

It is my suggestion, that you being a recent convert, is to NOT go out on the Internet and try to download packages from other websites or sources. The Mint repositories have the packages that are specifically designed to work with your particular Mint install. If you stick with what Mint has, you will be much more successful.

Also, as an aside, when you update, please use mintUpdate with Level 1 and 2 packages enabled. You can use some or most of the Level 3 Ubuntu packages. Only you can make the decision as to what you need. The Level 4 and 5 packages really should not be attempted until you really have been working around with Mint and Linux for a while. Even though Mint uses Ubuntu packages, it is not Ubuntu.

You should have smooth sailing with Mint. Welcome, and have fun.

Edit: Chad and Viking type faster than I do. :D
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Re: install programs

Postby chad1 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:49 pm

@rivenought

True we may type faster, but you have sure explained things a lot better than I =)
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Re: install programs

Postby K3k1985 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:32 pm

First of all thank you for your warm wellcome! It s great to know that i m not alone, and there is always help around...
Well i ve tried your steps but this is the message i get when i use the installer or the synaptic "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
E: _cache->open() failed, please report.

I have both windows and Linux on ths computer....

Thank you again
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Re: install programs

Postby rivenought on Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:20 pm

Ah, well, sometimes that error happens. It is nothing to worry about. The message even tells you what to do.

In your Terminal, you need to enter the command: dpkg --configure -a

I am not sure, but you may have to use: sudo dpkg --configure -a

I have only had this happen one time, and it was not with Mint. Usually this might mean some repository was offline or there was a transmission error somewhere between you and the server. It could be several things. Anyway, run that command and post back if something else goes all wonky. I think you should be OK, though.
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Re: install programs

Postby K3k1985 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:28 pm

whenever i try to instert sudo password , it doesn t work...What should i do?
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Re: install programs

Postby rivenought on Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:34 pm

How does it not work? Do you mean the line is blank after you type? If so, it is supposed to be blank. Key in your password and press enter. Hopefully, that is all you need to do.
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Re: install programs

Postby K3k1985 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:50 pm

yes the line is blank but when i type the pass it simply soesn t write anything on the screen...strange or is it normal???
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Re: install programs

Postby rivenought on Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:52 pm

It is normal to not see anything on the screen where your password is. It can be unnerving at first, but just something one gets used to. :D
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Re: install programs

Postby K3k1985 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:31 pm

When i type the command , they give me informations.....which one should i pick?? i m sorry but his is getting way complicated than i expected, and i m no informatic genious.....
Is there any other way to solve the problem??
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Re: install programs

Postby K3k1985 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:07 pm

Escreva dpkg --help para ajuda sobre instalar e desinstalar pacotes [*];
Utilize `dselect' ou `aptitude' para gestão de pacotes user-friendly;
Escreva dpkg -Dhelp para uma lista de valores de flags de debug do dpkg;
Escreva dpkg --force-help para uma lista de opções para forçar operações;
Escreva dpkg-deb --help para ajuda sobre manipular ficheiros *.deb;
Escreva dpkg --licence para licença de copyright e falta de garantia (GNU GPL) [*].


These are the options, i hope you understand because there in portuguese.....
What should i configure anyway?
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Re: install programs

Postby K3k1985 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:10 pm

sudo dpkg --configure -a

Problem solved, but i still cant get it how to install new progrmas through mint install or synaptic....
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Re: install programs

Postby rivenought on Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:22 pm

Ah, good. You got it straightened out. Now, if you would share the packages / programs are you wanting to install, we can get everything downloading, hopefully.
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Re: install programs

Postby K3k1985 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:01 pm

I downloaded the realplayer trough real website, to my sektop, but then how can i use install through mint install?
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Re: install programs

Postby viking777 on Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:48 am

K3k1985 wrote:I downloaded the realplayer trough real website, to my sektop, but then how can i use install through mint install?


You can't.
Mint install only installs the packages that it lists itself, not those from elsewhere. I wouldn't say that it is a bad thing, but it is not the normal thing to download packages from elsewhere - that is the Windows way and this is Linux. The Linux way is much easier and safer.

Real player is in Mint install. You open mint install type the word 'real' into the search box then have a look at the results. Highlight real player and click install that is all you need to do.
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Re: install programs

Postby chad1 on Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:07 pm

You don't install through mintInstall when you've already downloaded the .tar or .deb files
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Re: install programs

Postby linuxviolin on Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:55 pm

viking777 wrote: I wouldn't say that it is a bad thing, but it is not the normal thing to download packages from elsewhere - that is the Windows way and this is Linux. The Linux way is much easier and safer.

The "Windows way"??? Hmm, sometimes you must or want install something and it's not in the repos so you will have to seek a .deb somewhere or why not perhaps, if you know to make it, to compile it from source...This is not something unusual even under Linux... :roll:

And "much easier and safer"? Hmm... :wink:
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Re: install programs

Postby viking777 on Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:41 am

The "Windows way"??? Hmm, sometimes you must or want install something and it's not in the repos so you will have to seek a .deb somewhere or why not perhaps, if you know to make it, to compile it from source...This is not something unusual even under Linux..


It is not unusual for me or you, but the OP is a complete Linux newb and at that stage I would suggest it is not really the best thing to be doing.

And "much easier and safer"?


Yes I would argue that. Downloading a apackage from an official Mint/Ubuntu repository has got to be better than getting it from "dodgyronsfreestuff.net" which is what a lot of Windows users do. As for ease of use, the only way Mint could make things easier than Mint Install is to send a software engineer round to your house with every package downloaded :lol: (it would be good for jobs in the IT industry I suppose :D )
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