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Ubuntu planning on replacing Synaptic with software-center

Postby Lantesh on Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:39 pm

I find this disturbing. While I can certainly understand that the software-center is a great program for app discovery, and perfect for new users, I can't see it replacing Synaptic completely. I hope Clem decides to keep Synaptic regardless of what Ubuntu does with their next release.

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Ubuntu Software Center coming to Debian

I just uploaded aptdaemon 0.11-1 and software-center 1.1debian1 to Debian unstable. They are currently waiting in NEW, and will hopefully pass it in a short time. I plan to replace gnome-app-install with software-center for Squeeze, but you can currently have both installed.

Ubuntu Software Center (or just ‘Software Center’) is a new graphical user interface for installing and removing applications; replacing gnome-app-install. Under the hood, it uses aptdaemon which exposes an interface to APT via D-Bus; i.e. something in the direction of PackageKit. At a later stage, the Software Center shall replace Synaptic, Update Manager and various other programs related to package management.

The aptdaemon package is completely compatible to the Ubuntu one, and could thus be synced directly to Ubuntu without any change (if Ubuntu supports “3.0 (quilt)” source packages now, I have not looked into this). The software-center package is based on the latest Ubuntu lucid package; and contains some generalization (e.g. replacing ‘Ubuntu Software Center’ with ‘Software Center’) at some more places. It still needs some work in the documentation and some parts of the program will have to be adjusted for Debian aswell. We also do not have a debianized icon yet; this will be worked on later.
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Re: Ubuntu planning on replacing Synaptic with software-center

Postby DrHu on Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:56 am

I hope so as well, but based on Mintinstall/Mintupdate developments
    I kinda doubt it, since we already have the two splash screen setups, due to Ubuntu choosing xsplash, and Mint having usplash..

Following Ubuntu is a mixed blessing, it seems..

I also find the possible dropping of xorg.conf as a problem, I can't see Ubuntu being able or attempting to guarantee 100% success with their automation methods for Xserver (auto detect via edid display and bulletproofX, Ubuntu style)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_d ... ation_data
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=a ... fx_2&num=1
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n ... &px=NjU3Mw

I also see this dumbing down for a perceived/potential user grouping is not too smart, any problems are as likely to turn them off as on
    Windows learned their lesson from Vista and made sure that drivers were ready and working in that OS; Ubuntu can't do the same for the usual reason: lack of access and support for the newest hardware by the associated vendors..
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Re: Ubuntu planning on replacing Synaptic with software-center

Postby Lantesh on Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:50 pm

DrHu wrote:I also find the possible dropping of xorg.conf as a problem

That would be real problem for me. I use one PC as both my general PC, and also my media center. I use switchconf to swap displays on the fly, and switchconf of course needs xorg.conf, as the name implies. I would have to find a completely different way of doing things...ugh. :x
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