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Win2000 in VirtualBox don't see music CDs

Postby MartinRF on Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:56 pm

Folks,

Based on input from some of you I have installed VirtualBox to be able
to run Win2000 without dual booting. This has worked out quite well but
not to 100%. My biggest concern is related to music CDs:

I have been a complete failure when it comes to persuade music CDs
to show up in Win2000. Does anyone know how to make that happen?
I may be old fashioned but I want to transfer CDs to MiniDisc and
Sony's program only runs on Win2000 or later.

/Martin
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Postby Husse on Sat Aug 18, 2007 3:44 pm

Haven't got the slightest idea - why not ask at virtualbox?
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Community
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Postby MartinRF on Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:31 pm

Good thinking!
I tried that a week ago but got no respons.

I have also browsed the VirtualBox forum a bit and I am not the only one
with this problem. No clear-cut solution emerged though.

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Postby scorp123 on Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:44 pm

MartinRF wrote:Good thinking!
I tried that a week ago but got no respons.
Try their IRC channel. And you are sure you installed Music CD support for Windows 2000? I thought this 'feature' was off per default on NT4 and Win2K and needed to be installed extra .... I may be wrong though.
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Postby MartinRF on Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:38 pm

scorp123 wrote: Try their IRC channel. And you are sure you installed Music CD support for Windows 2000? I thought this 'feature' was off per default on NT4 and Win2K and needed to be installed extra .... I may be wrong though.

Thanks scorp, I'll try out the IRC channel as well.

I don't use Windows a whole lot and assumed music CD support was included. I don't know how to really check if it is but I found a CD player which I take indicates that music CDs indeed are supported.

If I insert a music CD the CD player tells me it is a data CD. Somehow the music gets 'lost in translation'. I don't even know if Mint, VirtualBox or Win2k is to blame.

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Postby Husse on Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:45 pm

Could be that W2k is to old for music through the IDE cable....
(and needs a separate cable)
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Postby scorp123 on Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:05 pm

Husse wrote:Could be that W2k is to old for music through the IDE cable....
Ahem :roll: ... that's only relevant if you try to listen to the music on the CD. Windows should nontheless not see a music CD as a "data CD", and without IDE-cable you wouldn't even have access to the CD drive .... :wink:
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Postby scorp123 on Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:07 pm

MartinRF wrote: I don't use Windows a whole lot and assumed music CD support was included.
As far as I remember NT4 (and Win2K too?) you have to enable music CD support in the Windows setup, e.g. in the "Additional Components" or whatever this is called.

Also ... try this web site:
http://www.geekswhoknow.com/articles/top_10_dvd_and_cd_drive_problems.htm
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Postby Husse on Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:05 am

Husse wrote:
Could be that W2k is to old for music through the IDE cable....
Ahem :roll: ... that's only relevant if you try to listen to the music on the CD. Windows should nontheless not see a music CD as a "data CD", and without IDE-cable you wouldn't even have access to the CD drive ....

I'm not quite sure you are right here scorp (apart of course from the part about without IDE cable)
In "the beginning" you had to have a separate sound cable from the CD drive to the sound card to get sound.
This is some time ago so I may remember wrong but I think the music CDs at the time were identified as "data" in Windows but still played music through the separate cable. I don't have some old enough equipment to test
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Postby scorp123 on Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:31 am

Husse wrote: In "the beginning" you had to have a separate sound cable from the CD drive to the sound card to get sound.
I still have that here as bus-mastering this stuff over the IDE cable through the main bus doesn't seem to work on my desktop systems.

Husse wrote: I think the music CDs at the time were identified as "data"
If this is really true then it just proves again that Microsoft doesn't give one stinky bit about adhering to standards. Music CD's and data CD's are clearly different standards, e.g. "Red Book" for CD-Audio and "Yellow Book" (CD-ROM) and "Orange Book" (CD-R + CD-RW) for CD-data. An operating system that adheres to these ISO standards should in no way mistake an audio CD for a data CD and vice versa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Books
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Postby Husse on Sun Sep 02, 2007 5:39 pm

Oh dear - you got another chance to hug Microsoft :P
I'm not quite sure but about the whole story but I clearly remember getting music CDs as "Data" in Win95
On the other hand not much was OK with win95 :)
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