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by **pashabear** on Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:04 am

Hello, just got Mint installed, I'm very glad it works with my internet setup (Suse has problems). However, although I can use Firefox to browse the web (like right now), Mint can't seem to check for updates or download new programs through Synaptic or the add/remove selection under Applications. It just sits on "Downloading", then times out.
Please help!
Thanks
pb

by **scorp123** on Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:26 am

Are you behind a proxy?

by **pashabear** on Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:57 am

No, I am using a D-Link wi-fi router in conjunction with my (also D-Link) dsl modem though.

by **scorp123** on Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:00 am

pashabear wrote:No, I am using a D-Link wi-fi router in conjunction with my (also D-Link) dsl modem though.

And this happens everytime? What's your bandwidth? And does only happen with synaptic (= "Add/Remove Software") or also with other programs that access the Internet?

Also, could you please post the output (copy & paste) of this command:

Code: Select all: sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list

When it asks for a password, you have to type your own password, OK?

by **pashabear** on Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:08 am

Well, Synaptic and the Add/Remove programs applet are the first places I noticed the problem, Gaim can't seem to get connected either. As I mentioned Firefox works fine, I also have the "DownThemAll" Add-on installed and it chugs away happily.
My connection is certainly nothing special, 128 kbps ADSL. Anyway, here are the contents of my sources.list:

## comments (##) in front of any line to remove it from being checked.
## Use the following sources.list at your own risk.

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse

## MAJOR BUG FIX UPDATES produced after the final release
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse

## UBUNTU SECURITY UPDATES
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse

## BACKPORTS REPOSITORY (Unsupported. May contain illegal packages. Use at own risk.)
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse

## CANONICAL COMMERCIAL REPOSITORY (Hosted on Canonical servers, not Ubuntu
## servers. RealPlayer10, Opera, DesktopSecure and more to come.)
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main

# AMAROK 1.4.4
deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144 edgy main

deb http://linuxmint.com/repository edgy main

by **scorp123** on Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:25 pm

pashabear wrote:As I mentioned Firefox works fine, I also have the "DownThemAll" Add-on installed and it chugs away happily.
My connection is certainly nothing special, 128 kbps ADSL.

Can you check Firefox if there is a proxy setting? And if you open a terminal and ping a host, do you get any reply back? e.g.

Code: Select all: ping archive.ubuntu.com

Here on my machine I get this reply:

Code: Select all: ping archive.ubuntu.com PING archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 195.248.90.35: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=42.9 ms 64 bytes from 195.248.90.35: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=42.9 ms 64 bytes from 195.248.90.35: icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=42.8 ms 64 bytes from 195.248.90.35: icmp_seq=4 ttl=52 time=42.8 ms 64 bytes from 195.248.90.35: icmp_seq=5 ttl=52 time=42.0 ms 64 bytes from 195.248.90.35: icmp_seq=6 ttl=52 time=42.7 ms 64 bytes from 195.248.90.35: icmp_seq=7 ttl=52 time=43.2 ms 64 bytes from 195.248.90.35: icmp_seq=8 ttl=52 time=42.7 ms --- archive.ubuntu.com ping statistics --- 8 packets transmitted, 8 received, 0% packet loss, time 6997ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 42.095/42.820/43.243/0.413 ms

Also: Did you check your provider's documentation? Maybe you have to use a certain proxy server?

by **Wise_One** on Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:19 am

Hello. Just got registered. I experience the exact same problem. After the ping test, here's what I get...

Code: Select all: There will be big changes for you but you will be happy. wiseone@wiseone-desktop:~$ ping archive.ubuntu.com PING archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=1 ttl=43 time=160 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=2 ttl=42 time=162 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=3 ttl=43 time=164 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=4 ttl=42 time=171 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=5 ttl=43 time=168 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=6 ttl=43 time=174 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=7 ttl=43 time=173 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=8 ttl=43 time=169 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=9 ttl=43 time=162 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=10 ttl=43 time=163 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=11 ttl=42 time=160 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=12 ttl=42 time=167 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=13 ttl=42 time=168 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=14 ttl=42 time=160 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=15 ttl=43 time=163 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=16 ttl=43 time=162 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=17 ttl=43 time=170 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=18 ttl=43 time=164 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=19 ttl=43 time=164 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=20 ttl=43 time=172 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=22 ttl=43 time=161 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=23 ttl=42 time=161 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=24 ttl=43 time=166 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=25 ttl=42 time=161 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=26 ttl=43 time=162 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=27 ttl=43 time=162 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=28 ttl=42 time=160 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=29 ttl=43 time=164 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=30 ttl=43 time=161 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=31 ttl=43 time=163 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=32 ttl=42 time=161 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=33 ttl=42 time=159 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=34 ttl=43 time=164 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=35 ttl=43 time=170 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=37 ttl=43 time=166 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=38 ttl=42 time=159 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=39 ttl=43 time=172 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=40 ttl=43 time=159 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=41 ttl=42 time=160 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=42 ttl=43 time=166 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=43 ttl=42 time=172 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=44 ttl=43 time=161 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=45 ttl=43 time=165 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=46 ttl=43 time=164 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=47 ttl=43 time=160 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=48 ttl=43 time=161 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=49 ttl=43 time=159 ms 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=50 ttl=42 time=164 ms --- archive.ubuntu.com ping statistics --- 50 packets transmitted, 48 received, 4% packet loss, time 49088ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 159.507/164.675/174.202/4.168 ms wiseone@wiseone-desktop:~$

by **clem** on Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:37 am

Looks like either a proxy or firewall problem. Check firefox to see if it's using a proxy. Check that no firewall is blocking access.

Clem.

by **Wise_One** on Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:54 am

Firefox can connect to the internet.

The Synaptic Manager has the problem.

by **scorp123** on Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:09 am

Wise_One wrote:Firefox can connect to the internet.

The Synaptic Manager has the problem.

Sounds like a proxy problem to me. Synaptic is using its own proxy settings. If those are not properly set then you will have problems.

by **Wise_One** on Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:02 pm

Can you give me some more info? Actually I don't know about proxies or how they work...

by **pashabear** on Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:14 pm

Here's what I get with the ping test:

pasha@Pooh:~$ ping archive.ubuntu.com
PING archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=152 ms
64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=149 ms
64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=3 ttl=48 time=152 ms
64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=4 ttl=48 time=153 ms
64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=5 ttl=48 time=151 ms
64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=6 ttl=48 time=152 ms
64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=7 ttl=48 time=152 ms
64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=8 ttl=48 time=151 ms
64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=9 ttl=48 time=152 ms
64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=10 ttl=48 time=151 ms
64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=11 ttl=48 time=151 ms
64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.35): icmp_seq=12 ttl=48 time=151 ms

--- archive.ubuntu.com ping statistics ---
13 packets transmitted, 12 received, 7% packet loss, time 11999ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 149.937/151.950/153.131/0.856 ms
pasha@Pooh:~$

The thing is, I'm _not_ behind a proxy server, Firefox is set to "Direct connection to the Internet" (in Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Network/Settings)

Seems pretty strange... Windoze works fine, both for email & web.
pb

by **pashabear** on Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:21 pm

Here is some more info on my setup... I'm using a D-Link DI-624 Wireless router, and a DSL-500T modem. Actually, I see that the "Firewall" checkbox is selected in the modem setup, can anyone suggest what to do so that it will allow access to Synaptic, Gaim, Evolution etc? I have no experience with this.
Thanks
pb

by **pashabear** on Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:56 am

Well, I just downloaded Bianca and installed, but still have the same problems with Internet access. No one gave any advice for setting up the firewall, please help!
Thanks in advance

by **scorp123** on Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:31 am

pashabear wrote:Here is some more info on my setup... I'm using a D-Link DI-624 Wireless router, and a DSL-500T modem. Actually, I see that the "Firewall" checkbox is selected in the modem setup, can anyone suggest what to do so that it will allow access to Synaptic, Gaim, Evolution etc? I have no experience with this.
Thanks

Synaptic uses http and ftp to download its stuff, so technically it's no different than when you access the Internet from a web browser. I'd suggest you check your firewall settings and consult the manuals for your hardware? If you don't have manuals I suggest you go to the hardwaremaker's web site and look for the manuals there? Most manufactors offer their manuals as PDF for download and they should have a support forum too I guess where you could ask about e.g. how the router should be setup so that all out-going connections are allowed, but no unwanted incoming connections.

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