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Why Amarok?

Postby UlisseMint on Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:53 am

Why by default there is amarok as audio player? I use gnome, so i think that it's better to use a gnome application. I suggest to think about exaile :D
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Postby GoustiFruit on Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:12 am

I like Rhythmbox better :roll:
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Postby linuxviolin on Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:01 am

UlisseMint I agree with you. :D I would prefer that Exaile be installed rather than AmaroK in a Gnome Desktop...
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Postby Lowkey on Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:24 pm

Iĺl stick with Amarok thanks :)
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vs

Postby eriktheunready on Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:42 am

they are both awsome applications, one ~dumb~ question, is there a music player othere than xmms, that has a "pause" key?
looking at ryttmbox, exhaile etc. there seems to be a puase button issue? no?

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Postby linuxviolin on Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:23 am

eriktheunreadying wrote:is there a music player othere than xmms, that has a "pause" key?
look at ryttmbox, exhaile etc. there seems to be a puase button issue? no?

Yes JuK for example... :wink:
But it is a KDE app. :?
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Postby UlisseMint on Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:23 am

I think that exaile is the better alternative to amarok, in gnome; rhythmbox is used by default in ubuntu and debian (and the distros look like very similar).

I don't hate kde, but if i had to use a powerful gnome, i think that exaile is the right one. (alternatives are xmms, songbird, rhythmbox, beep media player, quodlibet, banshee, audacious, listen, but, in my opinion they haven't the elegance of exaile :D )
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Re: vs

Postby merlwiz79 on Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:17 pm

eriktheunready wrote:they are both awsome applications, one ~dumb~ question, is there a music player othere than xmms, that has a "pause" key?
looking at ryttmbox, exhaile etc. there seems to be a puase button issue? no?

:)
In Exaile the pause button is the play button while playing music.
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Re: Why Amarok?

Postby poision on Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:39 pm

UlisseMint wrote:Why by default there is amarok as audio player? I use gnome, so i think that it's better to use a gnome application. I suggest to think about exaile :D

amarok is good player and many features.Yes you are right exaile is gr8 too.May be amarok is more popular so it is in mint.
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Postby alexander on Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:32 am

exaile is more buggy than amarok currently.
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Postby blu3ness on Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:50 pm

i'm having some locale problems with amoraK running in gnome, I don't know if it'll change in KDE, but as long as that's not solved (such as artist and track names displayed as gibberish where they should be korean/japanese)

I'm sticking with exaile/rhythmbox /sadface. Also, somehow the font options on gnome do not have an effect on KDE based applications, so my amoraK fonts look fugly :x

just my 2c, I like amoraK, but I can never get it to the state where it doesn't bother me... :x
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In Xfce Daryna exaile is default... but I switched to amarok

Postby upstream on Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:52 pm

This could change since I am new to both of these programs. Both pulled in my old itunes folder. Was able to get both to see my ipod without too much effort.

I started with exaile and couldn't intuitively figure out how to manage my library... like rename artist names, move them into the right albums, etc... it let me drag and drop but never really move them.

Amarok seemed to make sense... I was able to edit the Tags and get things re-organize appropriately.
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Postby manishk on Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:15 pm

On my laptop, the System Monitor shows a much higher load with Exaile than Amarok. So I would stick to Amarok.
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Postby civint on Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:48 pm

I'd stick with amarok, simply because, IMO, it's the best FOSS music player about, stable, easy to use, easy to organise files, easy to add plugins. AND it's a kde app (I'm feeling the tug of the Qt toolkit these days..gtk is just a bit too...over simple for me...)
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Postby manishk on Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:35 pm

Talking about looks (Qt...) has anyone seen screenshots of Amarok 2.0??

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Why not Amarok??!!
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Postby linuxviolin on Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:15 pm

Amarok 2, the end of freedom. The end of a spirit.

Amarok 2 GUI... my God! :twisted:

And it seems to be designed for the wide screens, as its three major vertical areas are favoring wide screens indeed. And sad It seems as it push us into the commercial. (Magnatude, CoolStreams...)

Taken from the web because the guy speaks better than I :wink: :

"the freedom seeker might ask whether the "binding" to Magnatune is still freedom — or rather favoritism.

As for the Ruby script for CoolStreams... I don't know why is CoolStreams considered to be "something good" (such an horrendous web site makes me sick), but I know that anything that redirects me to Live365.com is pure stuff! And most of the contents is for paid membership only.

Oh, and having Ruby as an addition to the bloat... oh my. The younger princess (Ruby) is more attractive than the old gals (Python, Perl), eh?

Now I know why I am not using Amarok: not only because I don't need "ultrasmart collection organizers", or because Kaffeine suits almost all my needs (the same does Gxine): it's because I hate being pushed into the commercial."

Me too, even in my KDE distro in dual boot with Mint I don't use Amarok, I use Juk for music.:lol:
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Postby manishk on Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:24 pm

Well, thats a nice way of seeing it!!

Magnatune is supported by Amarok 1.4 too...I have never even tried it till date. And I guess, I'll do the same with all their other commercial 'bindings'.

The choice is upto us.
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Postby linuxviolin on Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:48 pm

I always hated being assailed by "commercial" :twisted:

This is a practice of "commercial" that we would not probably find in FOSS
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Re: Why Amarok?

Postby linuxviolin on Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:58 am

I just saw another reason for not using Amarok:

" I just noticed that Amarok requires Ruby, which is completely ridiculous!

Even when developing a Micro$oft Windows application, you can dynamically load a DLL if it exists and get pointers to the functions you need, this way making that library optional (as opposed to linking with an import lib that makes that DLL mandatory for the application to start). Now, how the **** are those open highly praised source developers only able to develop BLOAT, i.e. applications that will soon require you to install the whole Universe just because this is the way they wanted to develop, na!

Highly unprofessional. I never liked Amarok, but now I have one more reason not to use it. It's bloated anyway. I suppose I can compile it without support for Ruby, but it is ridiculous to hardcode it in build configuration options, when you could have used a flexible loading mechanism."

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Re: Why Amarok?

Postby manishk on Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:27 pm

Well, I'm not very literate in terms of these DLLs and dependencies... :oops:

If its a "bloat", then its time that Exaile gets some more public attention :!:
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