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Linux vs. Windows

Postby feinar on Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:34 am

HI
Wondering about switching from Win200 to LinuxMint.
BUT...!!! Can I use all of my old software? Like Adobe software..? iTunes, etc..
Or do I have to find other compatible software?

TNX
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby rcdeacon on Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:06 am

Some programs will have linux equivalents but you could use virtualbox to run win2000 and run some of those programs.
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby Acid7711 on Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:11 am

I'd suggest hopping over to http://appdb.winehq.org/ and having a peak around.
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby Gman8941 on Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:27 pm

This seems to be the main debate. I just converted fully to linux about 2 weeks ago, which is also when I tried out Linux Mint. My main concern was will my TF2 run or will WoW run? In those 2 cases the answer was "yes" and all of my office applications are well substituted with Open Office apps.

Is it as easy to get your windows programs working? Simply put, no it really isnt "easy" if your new to linux. It will just take pulling up google and searching for your specific issue or installs. The beauty of Linux Mint is that you can search the ubuntu forums too, and they have just about any application you could ever want to install and guides for it.

Coming from a former Vista/XP user, I cant recommend this build enough, it is what put me over the edge as far as fully converting. Give it a shot!!! you will learn a lot!!!

best of luck...and Thanks again to the team that put Linux Mint together
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby Guest on Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:40 pm

feinar wrote:HI
Wondering about switching from Win200 to LinuxMint.
BUT...!!! Can I use all of my old software? Like Adobe software..? iTunes, etc..
Or do I have to find other compatible software?

TNX

There are many replacement software available. No need to use any windows software. One note. Mplayer is installed by default. Watching quicktime movies is possible. Open the mplayer configure (on the apple trailer site when it appears when downloading a movie) and choose by video the x11 output...done...stay tuned and use Mint
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby MagnusB on Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:34 pm

You could be a bit more specific. Some software have a linux equivilant, but not all. I recommend using replacement software instead of running windows software where you can. Itunes have a ton of replacement, however it depends on what features you want. Like the Music store is only available with Itunes, but other come with other stores per default.
You could start with a dual boot system and make the swithc gradually, though..
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby nick on Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:58 pm

Hi

Not sure if this will work on your music store, IEs4Linux (if you must :( )

http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page

But I agree tell us what programs you want, and we will try to find Linux equivalant

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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby cmost on Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:11 pm

This sort of debate crops up time and time again. Windows users like the idea of switching to Linux but they don't want to let go of all their Windows applications. Some don't want to let go of the "Windows way" of doing things either. This is a case of wanting the cake and wanting to eat it too. While it's possible to run some Windows applications in Linux, or even virtualize a copy of Windows; complete with applications within Linux, the better solution is to let go of Windows entirely and fully embrace what Linux has to offer. It's the old sink or swim philosophy. There are many, many, many software applications available for Linux that perform the functions of Windows applications. The trick is figuring out what they are and how to use them. It's also critically important, as you embark on your Linux journey, to proceed with an open mind. Linux is NOT Windows. Repeat as often as necessary. Obviously they'll be an adjustment period and a learning curve. This is worth the effort as you find that you can get by splendidly with free applications most of the time. Not only will you find yourself completely free of Microsoft, but free of other expensive proprietary software vendors as well. I've been free of Windows and most proprietary software for five years now. I run a small business and I can do everything with free, open source software. You can too. Just try.

Here are a few links to get you started:
1. Comprehensive list of Linux equivalents (find the equivalent Linux applications for the ones you use in Windows.)
http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html

2. Setup a copy of Windows within Linux with VMware Server
For Daryna Users:
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-instal ... ibbon.html
For Celena Users:
http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty ... rver_howto

3. Run (some) Windows software natively within Linux using WINE
For Daryna Users:
http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2007/12/insta ... ibbon.html
For Celena Users:
http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2007/05/insta ... -1501.html
Check the WINE compatibility database to ensure the software you want to run is supported. Some run with all features enabled, some only partially. This should be your first stop.
http://appdb.winehq.org/

Remember, the forum is here to HELP YOU! Post often; we're happy to assist.
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby feinar on Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:28 am

HI
Thanx for alot of good answers..
Specific programmes I'm thinking about would be apps like Adobe Photoshop/Premier, other DVD autoring apps, and so on.. Sony DVD architect/Vegas Video...
I'm well aware that office apps and music/media players is to find for linux.

What about drivers for all my hardware? Wi.Fi card, chipsets, Graphic card (Nvidia).. Noticed that on my install disk for motherboard (ASUS) there was no linux driver for the integrated Wi-Fi card... (Not listed anyway).

And another thing.... How to install driver in linux..

Tried Slax linux the other day... Did not find my Wi-Fi hardware, and therefore it was no good to me.. Yet!
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby Zwopper on Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:02 am

feinar wrote:HI
Thanx for alot of good answers..
Specific programmes I'm thinking about would be apps like Adobe Photoshop/Premier, other DVD autoring apps, and so on.. Sony DVD architect/Vegas Video...
I'm well aware that office apps and music/media players is to find for linux.

What about drivers for all my hardware? Wi.Fi card, chipsets, Graphic card (Nvidia).. Noticed that on my install disk for motherboard (ASUS) there was no linux driver for the integrated Wi-Fi card... (Not listed anyway).

And another thing.... How to install driver in linux..

Tried Slax linux the other day... Did not find my Wi-Fi hardware, and therefore it was no good to me.. Yet!

Try the Live CD and see how much of your hardware that works.
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby FyrFyt on Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:43 pm

feinar wrote:HI

Specific programmes I'm thinking about would be apps like Adobe Photoshop/Premier, other DVD autoring apps, and so on.. Sony DVD architect/Vegas Video...


As fr as DVD authoring etc, There are a lot of apps out there that should appeal to you if you have trouble getting your adobe apps to work. If you do a search in these forums, the Ubuntu forums (look at what Ubuntu Studio has) and google. You will find everything from beginner to hard core pro video editing.

Good luck. Welcome to Mint, enjoy your stay, the desert cart will be around shortly.
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby yamawho on Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:57 pm

Linux is not windows ... period.

There is a learning curve but with distros like MInt around, is it much easier than most out there.

Running a LIveCD is the best way to check things out, just don't go looking for windows apps because there ain't any.
The big exception is Firefox. Many people use it in windows so since most people go online, this at least is the same.
I think Firefox has been instrumental in getting people to use linux since it has been included as the default in many distros.
With other apps you need to find the linux apps to replace the windows ones.
Depending on what you want to do of course.

When I first started using linux, I would install it on a extra hdd like a 40 or 80GB.
I would use the boot menu on boot and select the hdd with linux installed and boot that way.
This would prevent all the nail biting trying to remove it without hosing the windows install.

Many things will work out of the box but then again, depending on your hardware, many things won't.
Like printers, scanners etc ...
Some companies like HP have linux support for devices.
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby Fred on Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:56 pm

feinar,

I am not going to try to convince you to change over to Linux. You have to want to change and be committed to trying, learning, and working at getting past the gotcha's.

It is like an addict trying to come clean. You must want to and be committed before anyone can really help you. You must remember that Microsoft has spent literally Billions of dollars over the years to lock you in and addict you to Windows. They have done everything in their power to make it as hard as possible for you to stop paying them.

If you must have your pet programs that you use in Windows, and you aren't willing to actively find and learn to use satisfactory alternatives to them, I don't think you are ready for Linux.

Having said that, If you really want to shed the chains Microsoft has spent so much to shackle you with, in most cases it can be done. There are plenty of people that will be willing to help you, when the time comes.

Just another perspective.

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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby feinar on Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:25 am

Thanks.. Again!

First.. I'm very cuorius about Linux.. Just that I've never seen anything else than Windows, since I got my fist Computer as late as 2002... At age 25!

All my Linux experience comes from my DVB tuner... DGS 400s (Running on Linux..)

Anyway.. I'm a little bit tired of pirat-windows.. Getting harder and harder to come around those "genuine" windows checks..

Another consern is my girlfrien who dislike anything that's not familiar on the screen.. Almost paniced when switcing from Win2000 to WinXP... Big difference! Imagine switching to Linux...!!!

Have tried the Mint LiveCD... Not much working on the fly there..!

Have'nt looked much around, but is there some site listing compatible hardware... ?
Does Linux work the same way regarding drivers, applications i.e.
Ex. How do I install driver for a hardware just connected... Like Printer/scanner/Wi-Fi card.... etc.. Guessing that there are no Plug&Play installation..?

Is this the same operation in any linux distr..? Ubuntu, Mint, etc..

Greta idéa by the way, installing Linux on a different HD... Could be the way to go:-) For me!
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby yamawho on Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:17 am

The girlfriend factor is just another one of those things :mrgreen:

If you decide to install to a spare hdd, make sure you don't overwrite the MBR on your windows hdd.

Best to just install it and start using it and tackle the issues as they arise.
Keep a positive attitude and try to keep it fun.
Don't expect peripherals to work out of the box but everything else should.

Mint, Mepis and PCLinuxOS are the easiest to use IMHO.

Mint is based on ubuntu but clem and the boys have greatly improved it.
Ubuntu on it's own does not play MP3's or DVD's out of the box and is harder to configure.
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby Zwopper on Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:09 am

There are many themes out there to make your Linux installation look like other OS's: Vista, XP, Win 2K, Mac OS X, BeOS, you name it...
As I previously stated, run the Live CD, and see how you like the default setup, try things out, see how much of your hardware that "just works".
Have fun with it, dive in and explore!
Live CD's are a GREAT thing!
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby Vociferous666 on Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:19 am

i actually just converted my gf to Mint.

i recently made the almost complee changeover to Linux and soon after she was having problems with her xp home install.
i hate the wifi apps in windows. neways i formatted her compy and gave her a fresh install of xp pro from school, but her windows native wifi manager was still being ghey. i got frustrated and told her that she really needs to try linux. i showed her how mine worked and she thought it was pretty kewl. shes kinda dim but she caught on pretty fast with mint. she liked how we didnt have to screw around with drivers and such. and she liked how she could make everything purple. i showed her the themer and she flipped out.

now onto the problems.
if you have a laptop ith a built in card reader, chances are it wont read xD cards. if you have the Ricoh brand reader, there is currently no way to read an xD card.
the gf has no problem with getting a cheapie usb card reader. i gave her the reasoning that there are gonna be computers out there that dont come with card readers and you ar gonna want to dump pictures on one of those machines,and oh if you have a usb card reader, then ur good.
another problem was firefox goin back a page with a certain mouse gesture. with touch pads its internet hell.
help me help me i cant browse the interwebs!!!!
that was a tough fix. i ended up finding the solution on some SUSE Linux forum buried 5 pages back in google.
im gonna post the solution right after i finish this post. (Stupid Mouse Gesture)

i was very very surprised the degree of support for ipods in linux. i spent a few days looking for programs to put music on my nano, and then my gf was just like hey y dont u try using amarok.
i was like well sure lets go for it and sure enough, amarok slapped the music right on there!!
i dont like amarok o much but it works and it does our ipods. cant complain.
if anyone knows another musi program with ipod support plz let me know. pm me or sommat

another thing i didnt like about mint was the horrible video players. i danced around the room when i found VLC media player in the package manager.

oh and yea the package manager is amazing! thats the best part of linux i think.
i was a hardcore windows user not too long ago and i downloaded sooooo much freeware to do all the things that windows didnt give me options for, with linux, i dont have a nasty downloads folder, in fact there is only one program that i use "windows style", where you download a program and run it without using an installer and making my own shortcuts and stuff.

other than firefox and the card reader issues, i love linux, i havent used my windows partition in months!
im still procrastinating the big cleanup of windows. i have to backup all my useful progograms to my server and move my music into a linux partition.

im actually thinking of switching my server machine to Linux.
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby Zwopper on Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:21 pm

For iPod support use hipo
Code: Select all
apt install hipo
or gtkpod
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apt install gtkpod
or rhythmbox [Click to install with mintInstall]
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby feinar on Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:42 am

Another issue..

What about HD-DVD/Blu-Ray..
Using Power DVD today.. Anything for Linux there?
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Re: Linux vs. Windows

Postby nick on Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:26 am

Hi

If you want to play DRM crippled films on open software,

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Restr ... ayAndHDDVD

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