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NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby calf on Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:16 pm

Iam kinda pissed after trying all 4 Additional Drivers and now the Display Driver is completely dead

i actually have a Geforce g210m in my laptop (installed LM 14 KDE)

do you have any idea how i get my old standart driver back OR what would be way better a driver what works :?:

i bought that laptop with a GeForce while thinking yeah this works best with Linux and now iam totally dissapointed :(

thanks for any help...
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby speeder1987 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:48 pm

Which drivers specifically have you tried.

I have just installed the nvidia proprietary drivers which work fine.

If you go to your /etc/X11/org.conf you can see which driver your using, or use lspci to check

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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby calf on Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:17 pm

1) when i start the KDE Software "NVIDIA X Server Settings" it replies to me that i dont using any NVIDIA X driver
2) at 1st i tried the NVIDIA binary XOrg driver... and then the experimental one (there are 4 additional drivers 2 are "normal" 2 are "experimental" one experimental cant be installed)
3) trying "nvidia-xconfig" as root dont bring up anything usefull

lspci brings up following
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00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset PCI Express Graphics Port (rev 07)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
00:1a.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
00:1a.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 03)
00:1a.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 6 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M-E LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801IBM/IEM (ICH9M/ICH9M-E) 4 port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce G210M] (rev a2)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet (rev c0)


btw i cant even resize its only 640*480 :(

thanks for any help...
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby speeder1987 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:49 pm

sorry I should have been more specific, can you post the output of

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lspci -k


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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby calf on Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:02 pm

there it is...

the weird thing is that the "Additional Drivers" (actuall: nvidia_experimental_304) Status tells me that the "driver is activated but not currently in use" any idea how to get it in "use" ???

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00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1e77
        Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset PCI Express Graphics Port (rev 07)
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport
        Kernel modules: shpchp
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1bc2
        Kernel driver in use: i915
        Kernel modules: i915
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1e77
        Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1a.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1e77
        Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1a.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 03)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1e77
        Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1a.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1e77
        Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1483
        Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
        Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport
        Kernel modules: shpchp
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport
        Kernel modules: shpchp
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 6 (rev 03)
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport
        Kernel modules: shpchp
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1e77
        Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1e77
        Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1e77
        Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1e77
        Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M-E LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1e77
        Kernel modules: lpc_ich
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801IBM/IEM (ICH9M/ICH9M-E) 4 port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 03)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1e77
        Kernel driver in use: ahci
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce G210M] (rev a2)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1bc2
        Kernel driver in use: nvidia
        Kernel modules: nvidia_experimental_304, nouveau, nvidiafb
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1bc2
        Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
        Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
        Subsystem: AzureWave AW-NE785 / AW-NE785H 802.11bgn Wireless Full or Half-size Mini PCIe Card
        Kernel driver in use: ath9k
        Kernel modules: ath9k
04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet (rev c0)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1820
        Kernel driver in use: atl1c
        Kernel modules: atl1c
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby speeder1987 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:45 pm

Ok this is where i'm starting to stab in the dark a little so hopefully somebody more knowledgeable will step in soon ...

But I wonder why the kernel is using an experimental module, the output for lspci -k for me is this:

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04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF104 [GeForce GTX 460] (rev a1)
   Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. N460GTX Cyclone 1GD5/OC
   Kernel driver in use: nvidia
   Kernel modules: nvidia, nouveau, nvidiafb


If you go to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look in the device section it should say nvidia under driver I believe.

Which version driver are you trying to use as a matter of interest?

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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby DrHu on Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:03 pm

calf wrote:the weird thing is that the "Additional Drivers" (actuall: nvidia_experimental_304) Status tells me that the "driver is activated but not currently in use" any idea how to get it in "use" ???

If the nvidia driver module is being loaded, it is in use/active despite any message from Gnomes' additional driver operation that indicates not so..
    Both lsmod, nvidia-settings utility provided by nvidia driver (from the vendor:Nvidia) allow you to see if nvidia is in charge of the graphics for the X-server or not

In your code block, you are showing I915 or an Intel Integrated (motherboard built-in) graphics module, there is a whole plethora of information about Intel drivers, it will be part of an X-server choice via the package manager, but you should also check that specific chipset Intel 915 and installation on Linux..
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby calf on Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:08 pm

now i finally killed something else...

i just installed a non-experimental nvidia-driver + new kernel-header and image for nvidia and restarted the linux and now i have a weird situation:

1) i have no network interfaces available anymore - wth is goin on ? (so no wireless lan anymore)
2) the resolution is 800*600
3) the audio driver seems to be killed too

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01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce G210M] (rev a2)
   Subsystem: AsusTek Computer Inc. Device lbc2
   Kernel driver in use: nvidia
   Kernel modules: nvidia_current


more xorg.conf

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nvidia-xconfig version 304.43
Driver: nvidia


sooo - iam very intrested in what you or the other guyz saying now :?

@DrHu - i have no idea what your "talkin" about you see its not onBoard and its about nvidia cause its a geforce driver problem you confuse me
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby zerozero on Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:33 pm

calf,
from your lspci -k output here viewtopic.php?f=49&t=126583#p691079 i can see that you have 2 gpus in that computer: an intel and the nvidia.
please give us the output of
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inxi -SGx
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby calf on Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:45 pm

inxi -SGx

i guess this is cause i have this economic Mode when i use this i have the Card-1 and when i use the Card-2 its the "power" mode (normal graphic card use)

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System: Host: calf-UL80VT Kernel: 3.5.0-25-generic x86_64 (64 bit, gcc 4.7.2)
             Desktop: KDE 4.9.4 (Qt 4.8.3) Distro: Linux Mint 14 Nadia
Graphics: Card-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
               Card-2: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce G210M] bus-ID: 01:00.0
               X.org: 1.13.0 drivers: vesa.intel (unloaded: nvidia, fbdev) tty size: 80x34 Advanced Data: N/A for root
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby zerozero on Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:55 pm

please rerun the command as user, not as root, i'm interested in this Advanced Data: N/A for root

anyway we already know the root of the problem: dual gpu setup

you can't install the nvidia drivers directly having 2 gpus, it won't workm (actually this would the first information you should provide in the OP: i have a 2 gpu setup intel+nvidia; how do i install the drivers?) :D

options:
1- can you disable one of the cards in the bios? you'll lose that economic mode/power mode but it will be a lot simpler
2- get rid of all nvidia traces (really all) and try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee (with that gpu setup there's no other way around)
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby calf on Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:03 pm

zerozero wrote:2- get rid of all nvidia traces (really all) and try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee (with that gpu setup there's no other way around)


- at first i reinstall the linux (i didnt installed that much till now)

1) why get rid of nvidia traces ? its about the onboard card i dont need so it would be intel drivers

2) what do i do when i installed the Bumblebee Project ?

any recommendations what to do after i installed the system except the Bumblebee thing ?
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby zerozero on Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:19 pm

it's a good idea to start afresh.
- can you disable the intel card in any bios settings?
- or if you say that you don't need it, can you physically remove it (is that a laptop or a desktop?)
- bumblebee has a nice wiki to guide you
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby calf on Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:22 pm

zerozero wrote:it's a good idea to start afresh.
- can you disable the intel card in any bios settings?
- or if you say that you don't need it, can you physically remove it (is that a laptop or a desktop?)
- bumblebee has a nice wiki to guide you


no i cant disable nor remove it from my laptop (asus ul80vt)

cause i need the eco mode for my windows 7

so bumblebee is the option to use the nvidia card as standart driver and ignore the intel onboard one ?
btw the onboard card is NOT active till i start it with the button on the laptop, i think / hope linux uses the nvidia one as standart its not a dual gpu as you think (or is it ?)
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby zerozero on Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:26 pm

calf wrote:btw the onboard card is NOT active till i start it with the button on the laptop, i think / hope linux uses the nvidia one as standart its not a dual gpu as you think (or is it ?)
sorry i missed this part.
do the following test:
- switch the onboard gpu off on that button
- start mint and give us the output of inxi -Gx again (as user, not root)
let's see how linux leads with that situation :D
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby calf on Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:35 pm

sooo mint is reinstalled + bumblebee

seems the linux dont care about the eco mode button

and here is the inxi -Gx output

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Graphics:  Card-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Card-2: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce G210M] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           X.Org: 1.13.0 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 9.0 Direct Rendering: Yes


as you can see the crappy mesa driver is actually installed and not any other drivers :(

how to activate that bumblebee thing or the drivers for nvidia ?
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby zerozero on Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:53 pm

bumblebee is working as intended :D gives you the basic intel compatibility for everyday use and optirun for intensive usage

regarding steam and bumblebee see this http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/5/846939854395048434/
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby calf on Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:59 pm

zerozero wrote:bumblebee is working as intended :D gives you the basic intel compatibility for everyday use and optirun for intensive usage

regarding steam and bumblebee see this http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/5/846939854395048434/


but the mesa driver is installed, so while using bumblebee with "optirun" this software activates the nvidia driver for my g210m graphic card - is this correct ?

iam still a bit wondering how this is possible...
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby zerozero on Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:02 pm

calf wrote:is this correct ?
yes, bumblebee manages the usage of both drivers for both gpus according to user specification (an amazing project if you realize that is completely community driven :D )
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Re: NVIDIA Additional Drivers killed Displaydriver

Postby calf on Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:27 pm

zerozero wrote:
calf wrote:is this correct ?
yes, bumblebee manages the usage of both drivers for both gpus according to user specification (an amazing project if you realize that is completely community driven :D )


thank you so much for your support i will test this one tomorrow...

btw is it right to paste this as idea ? or where do i have to post a update note ?

http://community.linuxmint.com/idea/view/3830
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