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Hardware compatibility?

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:12 am
by rowa
ok, I'm that "girl" have a cpu problem. I summarize what happened. When I surfing mainly on flash sites, various games or youtube, the cpu goes up to 90 degrees and turn off my computer, even if I only have one window open, I can not download anything even a simple upgrade.

The network should be half of what it should go, I have a 2 mb downloading, and download to 70-80 kb. I tried to install windows to see if it was a hardware problem, but Microsoft does almost everything well.

At this point I'm wondering if there is an incompatibility with some hardware that I installed.

My hardware is:

m.b. asus m5a78l
cpu AMD FX 4100, QUAD CORE, 3.6 GHZ, 4MB CACHE L2 8MB CACHE L3, SOCKET AM3+ PROCESS TECN. 32NM
video card asus Phys X GeForge 210 Nvidia

Re: Hardware compatibility?

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:00 pm
by 2chunky
Sounds like two problems possible;
1.something working your cpu harder - check your system monitor
2.you are overheating your cpu - You normally cant use a stock fan with a x3,x4,x6,x8 core cpu
my cpu would overheat in 7 seconds in a benchmark test
you should be able to run your cpu maxed out 100 % indefinitely or forever so as not to be able to burn up your cpu
to solve problem #2 you need a different cpu fan

Re: Hardware compatibility?

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:56 pm
by homerscousin
We probably need a little more info. Your CPU should not be running at 90 degrees celcius just playing a you-tube video at their default resolution. My ratty old Pentium D (dual core) with Geforce gt 220 didn't get that hot playing you-tube video at 1080p. Back then I was running Mint 13 Cinnamon. What Linux version are you running? Did you install the Nvidia proprietary drivers? Did you build this rig yourself and maybe not apply thermal paste correctly? But if Windows works correctly, that isn't the problem. You may have to learn a few terminal commands like 'top'. That tells you what system processes are using the most cpu and memory resources. 'lshw' tells you a bit about your system hardware. There are lots more. I don't have them memorized. Your stock cpu cooler fan should be fine if you have not overclocked anything. These guys at AMD and Intel are pretty darn smart. They don't include a stock fan that is inadequate for normal coditions.

I doubt it is hardware incompatibility. It just isn't set up correctly yet.

Re: Hardware compatibility?

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:50 am
by 2chunky
ok; you have a 95 watt amd cpu.The fan that comes in the box is not capable of cooling your cpu.Its just a sales gimmick. With a little research on fans online you will see a difference in the fans.And no you dont need water cooling. Or an expensive fan.Both of mine about 20 - 30 dollars.They do take some patience to attach to the motherboard. I can benchmark at 100% cpu speed forever and stay under 50 degrees C. I have an 125 watt quad core build and a 65 watt triple core build on the cpu's., asus motherboards. Tiger Direct is a good place to start. And I only use artic silver cpu thermal paste.Just my opinion.

Re: Hardware compatibility?

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:36 pm
by homerscousin
The fan that comes in the box is not capable of cooling your cpu.
Ok. Let me respond like catweasle: BULLSQUAT. Stock cooling systems work under normal operating conditions. The guys designing this stuff have way more education than I do as well as a bunch of very sophisticated testing equipment. Ain't going to happen. If your CPU is overheating, it is being used to death, which is software, or something is not mechanically correct, like thermal paste.

Flash, I don't really understand. On my old Pentium D playing any flash video would jump the CPU use to the point it was almost overheating. On the Ivy Bridge system flash is no better or worse than anything: flash, .wmv, .avi, .mp4. No video goes over 10% CPU use. Maybe it's the CPU instruction set? I used to think flash was crap, now I don't care. Remember that flash has to be cross platform so there are some compromises. Give us an update rowa.