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wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby bungleofsketches on Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:40 pm

i'm kinda a newbie so no overboard comments please.

i tried the live version of Ubuntu, mint, fedora, mandriva one, etc. all have the same wireless issue.
i have now installed mint

i'm using a dell studio 1537 with the
intel WIFI link 5100 (802.11 a/b/g/n 1x2 1/2 minicard)

in all distros the wireless card recognises signal and networks and it connects and says it is connected. however all the browsers get locked in an infinite cycle of loading nothing with no error message the same with package downloads. only in mandriva did an error message appear.
it said the wireless card worked but some broadcom thing extraneous to the wireless card was wrong.

the mandriva one live said it recognises a Broadcom Corporation
Netlink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCle that it says won't connect

thanks!!!
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby Husse on Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:52 pm

Please tell us exactly which Mint you have
Open a terminal and run
Code: Select all
lspci

and post the result - mark with the mouse and right click to copy
Also run lsusb
This tells us your hardware
Also run
Code: Select all
lsmod

and post - it's a long list and I can't be sure what to look for
I have seen reports that intel WIFI link 5100 can run with 54 kbps in Intrepid so it should be possible to get it to work
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby bungleofsketches on Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:03 pm

Husse wrote:Please tell us exactly which Mint you have
Open a terminal and run
Code: Select all
lspci

and post the result - mark with the mouse and right click to copy
Also run lsusb
This tells us your hardware
Also run
Code: Select all
lsmod

and post - it's a long list and I can't be sure what to look for
I have seen reports that intel WIFI link 5100 can run with 54 kbps in Intrepid so it should be possible to get it to work

Linux mint 6
lsmod
Module Size Used by
nls_iso8859_1 12032 1
nls_cp437 13696 1
vfat 18816 1
fat 57376 1 vfat
af_packet 25728 4
binfmt_misc 16904 1
rfcomm 44432 0
sco 18308 2
bridge 56980 0
stp 10628 1 bridge
bnep 20480 2
l2cap 30464 6 rfcomm,bnep
bluetooth 61924 6 rfcomm,sco,bnep,l2cap
ppdev 15620 0
acpi_cpufreq 15500 1
cpufreq_conservative 14600 0
cpufreq_ondemand 14988 1
cpufreq_userspace 11396 0
cpufreq_stats 13188 0
freq_table 12672 3 acpi_cpufreq,cpufreq_ondemand,cpufreq_stats
cpufreq_powersave 9856 0
pci_slot 12552 0
sbs 19464 0
sbshc 13440 1 sbs
container 11520 0
iptable_filter 10752 0
ip_tables 19600 1 iptable_filter
x_tables 22916 1 ip_tables
sbp2 29324 0
parport_pc 39204 0
lp 17156 0
parport 42604 3 ppdev,parport_pc,lp
joydev 18368 0
arc4 9984 2
ecb 10880 2
dcdbas 15008 0
crypto_blkcipher 25476 1 ecb
psmouse 45200 0
uvcvideo 62728 0
evdev 17696 12
pcspkr 10624 0
sdhci_pci 15360 0
sdhci 23940 1 sdhci_pci
iwlagn 99588 0
iwlcore 92740 1 iwlagn
serio_raw 13444 0
mmc_core 58268 1 sdhci
ricoh_mmc 11904 0
rfkill 17176 2 iwlcore
compat_ioctl32 9344 1 uvcvideo
videodev 41344 1 uvcvideo
led_class 12164 1 iwlcore
v4l1_compat 22404 2 uvcvideo,videodev
mac80211 216820 2 iwlagn,iwlcore
snd_hda_intel 381488 3
cfg80211 32392 3 iwlagn,iwlcore,mac80211
snd_pcm_oss 46848 0
snd_mixer_oss 22784 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy 10884 0
snd_pcm 83204 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_oss 38528 0
snd_seq_midi 14336 0
snd_rawmidi 29824 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event 15232 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 57776 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer 29960 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 15116 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd 63268 15 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore 15328 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 16136 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
video 25104 0
output 11008 1 video
wmi 14504 0
ac 12292 0
button 14224 0
battery 18436 0
intel_agp 33724 0
agpgart 42184 1 intel_agp
shpchp 37908 0
pci_hotplug 35236 1 shpchp
ext3 133256 1
jbd 55444 1 ext3
mbcache 16004 1 ext3
sr_mod 22212 0
cdrom 43168 1 sr_mod
sd_mod 42264 4
crc_t10dif 9984 1 sd_mod
sg 39732 0
usb_storage 81728 1
libusual 27156 1 usb_storage
ahci 37132 2
ohci1394 37936 0
libata 177312 1 ahci
ieee1394 96324 2 sbp2,ohci1394
scsi_mod 155212 6 sbp2,sr_mod,sd_mod,sg,usb_storage,libata
tg3 129924 0
libphy 27392 1 tg3
dock 16656 1 libata
uhci_hcd 30736 0
ehci_hcd 43276 0
usbcore 148848 6 uvcvideo,usb_storage,libusual,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd
thermal 23708 0
processor 42156 4 acpi_cpufreq,thermal
fan 12548 0
fbcon 47648 0
tileblit 10880 1 fbcon
font 16512 1 fbcon
bitblit 13824 1 fbcon
softcursor 9984 1 bitblit
fuse 60828 3

sketches@sketches-laptop ~ $ lsusb
Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 08ff:2810 AuthenTec, Inc.
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 002: ID 1307:0165 Transcend Information, Inc.
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:63fa Microdia
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby Husse on Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:09 pm

The lspci too please
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby bungleofsketches on Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:55 pm

Husse wrote:The lspci too please

sketches@sketches-laptop ~ $ lspci

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset PCI Express Graphics Port (rev 07)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 03)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 03)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 6 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation ICH9M/M-E SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series
01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series]
04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless WiFi Link 5100
08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)
09:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 05)
09:01.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 22)
09:01.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 12)
09:01.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 12)
09:01.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev ff)
sketches@sketches-laptop ~ $
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby Husse on Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:56 am

Seems you have what you should have
Can you ping some server - let's say google
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ping -c 2 www.google.com

Remember to remove the ethernet cable first if you use it
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby Decemberdoom on Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:06 pm

Hmm, well I have no experience with that card or laptop, but, I for one have always had major trouble with the rtl8187 drivers in all versions of Linux. Basically they would connect, then disconnect and just seemingly disappear from the system.

My solution = Ndiswrapper. Has always worked flawlessly with my laptop and card, so if you cannot get the Linux driver running at a decent pace, I highly recommend you check this out. Actually, Mint 6 (Have no clue about other versions) comes with "Windows Wireless Drivers" pre-installed. If you do use this method, Windows 98 drivers seem to work the best.
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby Husse on Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:23 pm

Yeah - ndiswrapper* it is if the native driver don't want to play along
*Windows Wireless Drivers
ndiswrapper has been installed by default at least from Bianca I think
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby Decemberdoom on Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:16 pm

I swear, that was the first thing I noticed about Mint when I first booted it up (er, that was earlier today...).

It's such an essential tool for so many people, I really think most distros should include it by default.
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby bungleofsketches on Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:25 pm

Husse wrote:Yeah - ndiswrapper* it is if the native driver don't want to play along
*Windows Wireless Drivers
ndiswrapper has been installed by default at least from Bianca I think


am.... searched ndiswrapper all that came up was windows wireless drivers and when i clicked that there were no drivers to select...
if i go online and use the program will there be a selection?
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby bungleofsketches on Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:27 pm

Husse wrote:Seems you have what you should have
Can you ping some server - let's say google
Code: Select all
ping -c 2 www.google.com

Remember to remove the ethernet cable first if you use it


ping -c 2 www.google.com

sketches@sketches-laptop ~ $ ping -c 2 www.google.com
PING www.l.google.com (66.102.9.147) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- www.l.google.com ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 1014ms
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby Decemberdoom on Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:10 pm

For Ndiswrapper (or Windows Wireless Drivers, its graphical equivelant) you need to download the Windows version (preferably Windows 98 version) of the driver, extract it, and then select the **.inf file with the Windows Wireless Drivers program.

Also, that's an odd ping result... It seems you can connect to a server, since you were able to send packets, but are unable to receive any in return...

I'm not really an expert on these things, but I think its got something to do with the driver.
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby bungleofsketches on Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:26 am

Decemberdoom wrote:For Ndiswrapper (or Windows Wireless Drivers, its graphical equivelant) you need to download the Windows version (preferably Windows 98 version) of the driver, extract it, and then select the **.inf file with the Windows Wireless Drivers program.

Also, that's an odd ping result... It seems you can connect to a server, since you were able to send packets, but are unable to receive any in return...

I'm not really an expert on these things, but I think its got something to do with the driver.


got my driver from the dell website extracted the inf. file to the root folder and when windows wireless drivers loaded it in it said it was an invalid driver...
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby Decemberdoom on Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:55 am

Try extracting all of the files within, especially an .sys files, all to the same folder, then try again.
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby bungleofsketches on Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:53 pm

Decemberdoom wrote:Try extracting all of the files within, especially an .sys files, all to the same folder, then try again.


nononon won't work. installed this time but now the wireless card does nothing and won't recognise anything. even now when i uninstall the driver the original doesn't eben recognise the network now!!!
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby Decemberdoom on Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:56 pm

You could try using different versions of a Windows driver. Win98 ones usually are the best, but if they dont work, try some others.
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby bungleofsketches on Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:55 am

Decemberdoom wrote:You could try using different versions of a Windows driver. Win98 ones usually are the best, but if they dont work, try some others.


all i could find were win xp and vista. do you know a good site for old drivers?
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby Husse on Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:26 am

Not the Vista one, but the XP one should work ok
It's the .inf and/or .sys files you should use
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby Decemberdoom on Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:18 am

There might not be a Win98 driver, I tried searching for you on Google (where I normally find just about everything I need), but came up with nothing. Like Husse said, try the WinXP driver over the Vista one.
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Re: wireless connects but still no internet!?

Postby bungleofsketches on Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:51 am

Decemberdoom wrote:There might not be a Win98 driver, I tried searching for you on Google (where I normally find just about everything I need), but came up with nothing. Like Husse said, try the WinXP driver over the Vista one.


this ain't working can you suggest a model of wireless card to buy that is best supported on linux?
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