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xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby Wienux on Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:33 pm

Hello,

I am missing a visible right lower edge resize area in the window design. Sorry, but i really, I dont want to search
for it each time i want to change size?? Is this still patented Amiga design, that prevents a proper design,
or stupidity...
In the damn-long-link below, there is an example of how to do it right. All clickable window parts are clearly visible,
including visible lines indicating and matching their exact boundaries. So one always knows where to click.
Additionally, three edges of each window except for the settings one are function. So one never has to worry
where to hit exactly, when a window is maximized - instead, just move into the according edge, and click once.
Even the scrollbar, hello Windows, does never snap back while using it...

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/v ... WJfci9tuZT

I tried the irc help channel, and browsed settings manager, but found no solution.
Any suggestions how to tackle this issue?
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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby sagirfahmid3 on Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:05 pm

How in the HELL does Amiga OS have something to do with Xfce?
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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby Wienux on Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:18 am

sagirfahmid3 wrote:How in the HELL does Amiga OS have something to do with Xfce?


They both have a gui. How the hell dont you understand?
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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby viking777 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:43 am

I am sorry to tell you Weinux that your topic is anything but clear. The person responding to it did not understand it, I do not understand it, and the post has been reported as off topic by another user who clearly believes it is about Amiga. I suggest you edit the opening post to make it clear what operation system you are using and which desktop environment, then people might be happier about it.
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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby h00ver on Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:36 am

Alt + right-click + drag

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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby Habitual on Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:49 am

Wienux wrote:...They both have a gui. How the hell dont you understand?


I have Tang in my kitchen cupboard, doesn't make me an astronaut.
What's a landing but a take off in reverse?
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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby jupiter66 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:47 pm

I think (not sure!) the author of this post has troubles with windows resize grips in mint13 xfce. In fact, I have this issue too (with xfce composition, but not with compiz). Open any windows and try to resize it (both height et width at the same time) with the mouse only (not the alt-right click trick). You will find that the bottom "grips" (triangles) are very difficult to catch. I see that changing the theme can help a bit but I'm not satisfied with this behaviour. If anyone know how to easily fix this, I'm interested. I understand that this is caused by a change in ubuntu 12.04 that affects xfce but I can't believe we will have to accept this. Compiz is not a workaround because it has many other issues.
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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby squeezy on Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:04 pm

jupiter66 wrote:I understand that this is caused by a change in ubuntu 12.04 that affects xfce but I can't believe we will have to accept this.


I don't think it's an ubu 12.04 thing. The corner grips in Xfce have always been hard to get hold of. It's like they have 1 pixel of active area or something.
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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby jupiter66 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:13 pm

squeezy wrote:
jupiter66 wrote:I understand that this is caused by a change in ubuntu 12.04 that affects xfce but I can't believe we will have to accept this.


I don't think it's an ubu 12.04 thing. The corner grips in Xfce have always been hard to get hold of. It's like they have 1 pixel of active area or something.


Maybe this behaviour is not "new" (I'm not sure). In fact, I was just pointing to "Method 1" section of this FAQ: http://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing ... -and-xfce/ (short discussion about feature drop in 12.04)

Anyway, is there a way to improve this?
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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby wyrdoak on Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:13 pm

Have you tried in you home folder Ctrl+h open file .gtkrc-xfce in gedit, if Maya, if it is not there use .gtkrc-2.0

Add:
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style "default-style"
{
  GtkWindow::resize-grip-height = 3
  GtkWindow::resize-grip-width = 3
}

class "GtkWidget" style "default-style"

Reboot. If I remember correctly it's in pixels so if you want it larger or smaller increase or decrease the variable "3"
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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby jupiter66 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:19 pm

thank you wyrdoak, but I tried your suggestion (apped to my existing .gtkrc-xfce) and observed no change. Don't we have to modify the theme files instead (mint-x)? I'm not familiar with this but this is what I would like to try...
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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby wyrdoak on Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:25 pm

jupiter66 wrote:thank you wyrdoak, but I tried your suggestion (apped to my existing .gtkrc-xfce) and observed no change. Don't we have to modify the theme files instead (mint-x)? I'm not familiar with this but this is what I would like to try...


Go ahead and try it it, you might need to change the .gtkrc file in the theme to get it to work now with all the changes.
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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby jupiter66 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:43 pm

wyrdoak wrote:Go ahead and try it it, you might need to change the .gtkrc file in the theme to get it to work now with all the changes.


Well, the problem is that I don't know how to modify theme files (what, where, how)...
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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby wyrdoak on Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:59 pm

jupiter66 wrote:
wyrdoak wrote:Go ahead and try it it, you might need to change the .gtkrc file in the theme to get it to work now with all the changes.


Well, the problem is that I don't know how to modify theme files (what, where, how)...


I added the above lines to gtk-widgets.css file in gtk-3.0 of the theme, then in gtk-2.0 folder of the theme add the lines to the gtkrc file, as well as the what I said above to the gtkrc-xfce file, this is what I got: Image

EDIT: OK, checked some of the other themes the Xfce themes and the gtk 2 themes it there with a visual target, the gtk 3 themes it's there and works but there is no visual target that I can see, but at least it's a larger target so not quite a hunt for it.
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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby jupiter66 on Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:15 pm

Here is what i have done (not sure if it's what you mean):
1) In /usr/share/themes/Mint-X/gtk-2.0, I added the above mentionned lines to the gtkrc file.
2) In /usr/share/themes/Mint-X/gtk-3.0, I modifed the existing GtkWindow-resize-grip lines to "3" (in gtk-widgets.css file)
3) I still have the added lines in my ~/.gtkrc-xfce

I get a triangle grip (like your picture) but only for the right corner and only in some applications (thunderbird for example, but not in firefox go figure). I also try to completely add the lines in step 2 and get the same thing.

For me, it's not essential to "see" the triangle grips, but I need a grip zone in *both* corners for *all* windows.
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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby wyrdoak on Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:08 pm

jupiter66, yes I saw that with ForeFox and ThunderBird, also with Chrome the sweet spot seems to be part of the window's shadow as well as the frame, but it still should be easier to "grab" than it was before. In VLC it seems to be a dark triangle in the lower right corner. I can still grab the window frames to re-size also, I think Gnome only really had a visual in the lower right corner.
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Re: xfce - resizing-area easteregg-hunt

Postby jupiter66 on Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:26 pm

wyrdoak wrote:but it still should be easier to "grab" than it was before. In VLC it seems to be a dark triangle in the lower right corner. I can still grab the window frames to re-size also, I think Gnome only really had a visual in the lower right corner.


No it's not easier than it was before, except for some apps like Thunderbird and VLC (and only for the right corner). Never had this problem in gnome2 or gnome3 environnements. Since mint13-xfce is seen as an option to replace good-old-mints, I'm very surprised by this issue (and by the absence of reaction from other users).
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