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Re: Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:28 am
by merlwiz79
khai wrote:any updates on final version development?
I think I am going to start from Cassandra and work my way up to Daryna.
I might have left an old config file in there and it could be causing the problems.
Something has to be making Firefox(all Mozilla browsers) act memory hungry.

Re: Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:55 pm
by merlwiz79
daelsta wrote:So why don't you replace firefox? there are a few alternatives...

greetz daelsta
Because it still should work the same even if others don't want to use it.
Also it's all Mozilla based browsers not just Firefox.

Re: Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:08 pm
by awong
merlwiz79 wrote:
daelsta wrote:So why don't you replace firefox? there are a few alternatives...

greetz daelsta
Because it still should work the same even if others don't want to use it.
Also it's all Mozilla based browsers not just Firefox.
Firefox is my main browser. I support its use in Mint XFCE. FF is very functional and still growing in popularity, IMO.

Re: Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:35 pm
by belovedmonster
You say Firefox 3 doesn't have the problem. Does anyone know when it will launch? Early 08 is as much as I know.

Incidentally, FF3 is supposed to be way a lot less hungry than FF2 in general, so even without this problem FF3 would use less resources.

Re: Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:57 am
by Wasda
I'm running XFCE in virtualbox with 512 mb ram.
I have removed compiz totally.
I have run Firefox for two hours and the memory use was max 72 mb with a lot of tabs opening and closing.
But it feels slow, somehow.

Re: Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:38 am
by khai
don't want to sound unpatient (i know i do), but what happened to Daryna XFCE?
is there any chance that there will be a final version, or will it be skipped and work will progress towards Elyssa XFCE beta?

Re: Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:19 pm
by merlwiz79
khai wrote:don't want to sound unpatient (i know i do), but what happened to Daryna XFCE?
is there any chance that there will be a final version, or will it be skipped and work will progress towards Elyssa XFCE beta?
Don't worry, I also wish the final was finished.
Not sure how long t will take but hope to find the problem.
Me and my wife had car accident and that has taken over on my time.
We are fine, the car isn't though.
Here are updates to mintDesktop and mintConfig.
mintDesktop is here http://linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=56157#p56157
mintConfig is here http://linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=9049

Also you need to edit your sources.list file.
gksu mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list
Delete everything in the old file and replace it with this.

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##
##
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## LINUX MINT REPOSITORIES ##
##
##
##
## ----------------------- ##

## +++ Daryna (Linux Mint 4.0) +++
#LinuxMint - Main Upstream Import
deb http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ daryna main upstream import 
#LinuxMint - Community
deb http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ daryna community 
#LinuxMint - Backport
deb http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ daryna backport 

## +++ Romeo (Linux Mint Unstable) +++
# deb http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ romeo daryna 

## +++ Source Repositories +++
# deb-src http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ daryna main upstream import 
# deb-src http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ daryna community 
# deb-src http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ daryna backport 
# deb-src http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ romeo daryna 

##
##
##
## ------------------- ##
##
##
##
## UBUNTU REPOSITORIES ##
##
##
##
## ------------------- ##

## +++ Gutsy (Ubuntu 7.10) +++
deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse 
deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse 
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse 

## +++ Backports & Proposed (Ubuntu Unstable) +++
#deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse 
#deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse 

## +++ Source Repositories +++
#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse  
#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse  
#deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse  
#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse  

##
##
##
## ----------------------------- ##
##
##
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## OTHER REPOSITORIES - SOFTWARE ##
##
##
##
## ----------------------------- ##

## +++ Canonical +++
#Canontical- Proprietäre Software
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ gutsy partner 

## +++ Medibuntu +++
#Medibuntu
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free 
##
## Exaile Music Player updates working now
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/exaile-devel/ubuntu gutsy main
##
##  Wicd Updates 
deb http://apt.wicd.net gutsy extras 
##
## Swiftfox
deb http://getswiftfox.com/builds/debian/ unstable non-free 
##


Daryna XFCE CE UPDATES

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:00 pm
by merlwiz79
You need to edit your sources.list to receive the latest updates.(example: Firefox)
mintDesktop 0.8 and mintConfig
For the above updates look at my last post.
Other updates:
GPicView latest .deb http://downloads.sourceforge.net/lxde/g ... g_mirror=0
Brasero removed/release.php?id=2037
Deluge http://download.deluge-torrent.org/ubun ... .gutsy.deb
Wicd http://downloads.sourceforge.net/wicd/w ... g_mirror=0

Re: Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:30 pm
by jbaerbock
I feel your pain merlwiz, I got rearended in a McDonald's drive thru. Thankfully my car has the worlds toughest bumper lol (has lifted a truck off the ground before) so no real damage except a small smudge was done.

About firefox, I have heard any edition currently out there is full of memory holes and leaks. So it sounds like it wouldn't be something you could fix, sounds more like a problem Mozilla has to address. I have always had problems with FF (freeze ups, crashes, etc) in both linux and windows worlds. Sadly though I can never find a Linux browser that comes close to it. Though if anyone knows of a simple yet feature rich browser that can work well in XFCE (preferably not GTK or QT dependant) let me know.

Re: Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:59 pm
by Zwopper
Opera...

Re: Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:29 pm
by merlwiz79
jbaerbock wrote:I feel your pain merlwiz, I got rearended in a McDonald's drive thru. Thankfully my car has the worlds toughest bumper lol (has lifted a truck off the ground before) so no real damage except a small smudge was done.

About firefox, I have heard any edition currently out there is full of memory holes and leaks. So it sounds like it wouldn't be something you could fix, sounds more like a problem Mozilla has to address. I have always had problems with FF (freeze ups, crashes, etc) in both linux and windows worlds. Sadly though I can never find a Linux browser that comes close to it. Though if anyone knows of a simple yet feature rich browser that can work well in XFCE (preferably not GTK or QT dependant) let me know.
Xubuntu Gutsy and Daryna(main and KDE) doesn't have the same problem, it has to do with something in Daryna XFCE CE only.
Firefox 3.0 beta 3 doesn't the same amount of this problem, but if the others don't have this problem, then neither should XFCE CE.

Re: Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:13 am
by linuxviolin
Yes Opera is superior to Firefox but it has some problems with flash... and it's closed!

But have you tried Kazehakase as used by Fluxbuntu and Ubuntulite?

It's a "Gecko based web browser using GTK", "a web browser using the Mozilla rendering and networking engines."

Midori is also interesting but still in its early stages of development, so most of the options are not configurable. It is a project to watch. "Let's hope that Midori won't reach the bloatedness of the other browser that was supposed to be lightweight"... :roll:

Re: Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:28 am
by reia2k
Yesterday I reinstalled mint Xfce. From the hardyheron (ubuntu 8.4) repositaries
I updated xfce to the 4.42 version and firefox the 3.0b3 version. No problem until
now. Not bugs on Xfce and a good work of the browser. Try and good luck.
I love Xmint :-)

Re: Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:29 am
by jbaerbock
I agree with you fully MerlWiz. FireFox should work the same in XFCE CE as it does in the other distros. I was mearly pointing out that FF has a history of being a memory blackhole. I've had it hog loads of memory in Windows too. But good luck on trying to fix it. Any idea if this was a problem in XFCE Cassandra or just in Daryna?

Re: Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:42 pm
by merlwiz79
jbaerbock wrote:I agree with you fully MerlWiz. FireFox should work the same in XFCE CE as it does in the other distros. I was mearly pointing out that FF has a history of being a memory blackhole. I've had it hog loads of memory in Windows too. But good luck on trying to fix it. Any idea if this was a problem in XFCE Cassandra or just in Daryna?
Cassandra worked correctly, but Celena and Daryna doesn't.

Re: Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:15 pm
by jbaerbock
I copied that sources.list as well and hope to put it to good use once my new hard drive gets in. Apparently all my installing and testing of distros took its toll on my HD and it is almost 100% dead. So I'm replacing my 40gb dead one with a higher rpm 120gb :D. Yes it makes me happy and I haven't made up my mind yet but hope to install Mint XFCE either Cassandra or Daryna whichever is ready. Keep up the good work MerlWiz and really Cassandra XFCE was so good I don't think we're missing to much by not having Daryna yet.