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Re: Paradigm shift in File Managers

Postby mike acker on Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:16 pm

ok
I've installed XFE and will give it a shake-out

I used Explorer2 on Windows and that was pretty good and I have used Krusader a lot on various linux systems

as far as search goes I'm not sure it belongs in the file manager -- except for searching on file names. I've been using RECOLL now as a desk-top search and I rate that program with five stars: excellent work. ( RECOLL indexes your documents and therein lies the difference )

the thing that I'll be most interested in is what I call "target identification" : it is too easy, when using a dual panel program -- or two instances of a single panel program to drag and drop a file into an un-intended target -- usually another directory -- and I have made more than one embarrassing error in that manner

I've been having trouble with the installer on my LMDE system : this one reported program not installed -- someone else is using the installer-- ??
when i went back to it -- it had completed the install properly . hopefully this little glitch will be in one of our fixes coming along

one more thing i'll be looking for is a camera import feature

1830 hrs

I played with it a little,--- the thing I'd like to see is a "target area" : when you open a directory that has lots of sub-directories such that there is no blank line at the end of the list: it is difficult to drag and drop into that target without inadvertently hitting a directory that is not the intended target. for example, if I could just drag and drop onto the margin off the end of the listing this could be taken as "add to the existing list". suppose i have 100 sub-directories and I want to bring in another one and make that 101 sub-directories. it isn't easy . i usually end up switching to icon mode so as to get some blank space to use as the target.
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Re: Paradigm shift in File Managers

Postby woodsman on Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:45 pm

Regarding the Xfe search feature, I believe that feature was added in version 1.37. LMDE repos are stuck on version 1.34. Jessie repos have 1.37.
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Re: Paradigm shift in File Managers

Postby JRG on Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:05 pm

mike acker wrote:ok
I've installed XFE and will give it a shake- out

[...]

1830 hrs

I played with it a little,--- the thing I'd like to see is a "target area" : when you open a directory that has lots of sub-directories such that there is no blank line at the end of the list: it is difficult to drag and drop into that target without inadvertently hitting a directory that is not the intended target. for example, if I could just drag and drop onto the margin off the end of the listing this could be taken as "add to the existing list". suppose i have 100 sub-directories and I want to bring in another one and make that 101 sub-directories. it isn't easy . i usually end up switching to icon mode so as to get some blank space to use as the target.

I usually right click on the file or directory and choose "Copy to" or "Move to" as appropriate. The default location is the other panel. What's also useful is the ability to specify a different name -- if both panels are showing the same directory, that simply makes a copy. Mind you, I'd prefer a "Duplicate" function be available, but I can manage.
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Re: Paradigm shift in File Managers

Postby linux-dummie on Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:05 pm

I've adopted both styles of file managers. I use tuxcmd for the 2-panel when I need it---that is, when I have to do a considerable amount of file operations/copy/move/etc, and the immediate access to the terminal for file ops is nice. For just accessing/opening a file or 2 that I need quickly, I use Caja, which also gives me fast direct access to my "Places," extra mounted drives, network shares, bookmarked directories, etc.
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Re: Paradigm shift in File Managers

Postby mike acker on Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:28 pm

JRG wrote:{snip}

I usually right click on the file or directory and choose "Copy to" or "Move to" as appropriate. The default location is the other panel. What's also useful is the ability to specify a different name -- if both panels are showing the same directory, that simply makes a copy. Mind you, I'd prefer a "Duplicate" function be available, but I can manage.


thanks; I'll try that.
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Re: Paradigm shift in File Managers

Postby /dev/urandom on Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:21 am

linux-dummie wrote:That's the power of Linux: options! Why tie yourself down like a Windows user?


I'm pretty sure that there are more Windows that Linux file managers around. Guess that's why.
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Re: Paradigm shift in File Managers

Postby AlanWalker on Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:53 am

mike acker wrote:I played with it a little,--- the thing I'd like to see is a "target area" : when you open a directory that has lots of sub-directories such that there is no blank line at the end of the list: it is difficult to drag and drop into that target without inadvertently hitting a directory that is not the intended target. for example, if I could just drag and drop onto the margin off the end of the listing this could be taken as "add to the existing list". suppose i have 100 sub-directories and I want to bring in another one and make that 101 sub-directories. it isn't easy . i usually end up switching to icon mode so as to get some blank space to use as the target.

I don't see the problem.

Ctl+F4 displays the tree pane and 2 directory panels.

If one wants to copy directory "A" into a directory "B" that has 100 directories in it, one can drag and drop "A" from anywhere in the tree pane into "B" using the tree pane; the same with any file from either panel into "B"; the nice thing about doing that is it yields a graphic representation of the source relative to the target - there is less of a chance that one moves or copies in error.

Alternatively one can go one directory above the target directory and drag the source file or directory to the target directory.

Am I missing something here?
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