Only human beings (Al Gore being the head dufus) could be so full of themselves as to think that they could ruin in 200 years what has been here for ages!
How can you question this?? Yes I know that there are natural factors. But human involvement has kicked everything out of balance and worsened the situation. Need examples?Watcher wrote: What we do know, the earth is getting warmer, what we don't know for sure is if human activity is the cause of it.
No, but our CO2 output is the main factor for kicking a possibly natural phenomenon out of its balance. We're not solving the problem, we're contributing to it. And then plenty!Watcher wrote: So CO2 cannot be the main factor of global warming.
Propaganda is what those various US lobbies are doing, trying to disprove global warming, denying that it is taking place, or now that they can't deny it, they come forward with argument such as "but CO2 isn't even the main factor here ... " Right guys! Just carry on and fill your greedy pockets ... As I said, we're the frogs from that video up there.Watcher wrote: and you have the same propaganda going on.
That's not very wise in my opinion, sorry to say that. Whatever the reasons behind global warming, whatever the reasons for this problem are ... the most important thing is that we humans stop adding to the problem. Right now, we're part of the problem, and not part of the solution.Watcher wrote: There is no argument about Global warming, what needs to be found out is what is causing it.
Maybe because no human lives on Mars? No human has to live there, no human depends on Mars' atmosphere? So I suppose then that for us humans right now Mars is the last thing we need to worry about and Al Gore doesn't need to mention Mars. Mars can go straight to Hades or supernova or it can go to absolute zero, at 0Â° Kelvin. It is irrelevant for us. We don't live there. We live here.Watcher wrote: Mars too is going through Global Warming according to science. If this is so why did Al Gore not mention this in his film.
I can imagine. I've recently seen a report about Greenland where the Inuit ("Eskimos") are on one hand happy too: The climate got so warm that they can now grow vegetables in their gardens and have cows on all those new grassy areas. No more importing this stuff from USA or Europe. No more having to hunt seals in a harsh climate, if they're hungry they can now in some areas have as much beef steak as they want. On the other hand they lose their identity and traditions. There simply is "no need" for their old ways of life any more. Why do you need to eat raw meat (Inuit traditionally don't cook the meat they eat ... in their ice deserts there simply is nothing to get a fire going with!) when now you can be "civilised" and eat vegetables all day long and have a juicy beef steak or hamburger ...clem wrote: You're probably going to hate them... a lot of people here in Ireland are quite happy with the "new" climate...
Exactly.clem wrote: people realize things have changed, globally for the worse; but in a scary shortsighted kinda national way for the better here locally as well.
Exactly.clem wrote: The thing is, it's hard to focus people's attention to long term problems simply because they don't find it practically interesting enough. May it be global warming or hubbert pikes they're just not interested... doesn't affect them... not directly.. not right now anyway.
Exactly. We hunted the mamooth until there were none left. We will continue to use fossil fuels to the last drip. And we will continue to pollute this planet with our vast industries until ... well, something stops us.clem wrote: they'll only stop when they'll be made to stop
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