GNOME OR KDE MINT?

Chat about just about anything else

Postby mikpap on Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:01 am

I like more the KDE environment. I like the fact that I have more control over the customized desktop than GNOME (my point of view). As far as for the functionality both environments do the basics very well. Maybe GNOME is better for a new in linux (I see it as more easy to "figure it out". My vote goes however in favor of KDE.
User avatar
mikpap
Level 2
Level 2
 
Posts: 72
Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 5:36 am
Location: Korinthos, Greece

Linux Mint is funded by ads and donations.
 

Postby mikpap on Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:08 am

I would like for instance to have both installed (KDE and GNOME) in the same partition. In this way I could choose either one as I please every time I boot my pc. Maybe we could have in the future an installation dvd from the mint team with the ability to choose which environment (KDE and/or GNOME) will be installed (with dual installation feature included). That would be something...
User avatar
mikpap
Level 2
Level 2
 
Posts: 72
Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 5:36 am
Location: Korinthos, Greece

Postby Sorensei on Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:24 am

mikpap wrote:I would like for instance to have both installed (KDE and GNOME) in the same partition.

Er... what keeps you from installing the one you don't have and choosing your session?
I don't have a solution, but I do admire the problem.
User avatar
Sorensei
Level 4
Level 4
 
Posts: 254
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:24 am
Location: Switzerland

Postby mikpap on Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:57 pm

Sorensei wrote:
mikpap wrote:I would like for instance to have both installed (KDE and GNOME) in the same partition.

Er... what keeps you from installing the one you don't have and choosing your session?


The fact that KDE installed on a Linux Mint 3.0 Cassandra partition is just a KDE with limitations and not a Mint KDE (I believe - even though I haven't try it - that you can't install KDE Bianca. I installed KDE (either using apt-get install kde or apt-get install kde-core) after updating the sources.list with feisty's repos (KDE 3.5.7 from kubuntu.org) but the result is far from being as elegant as KDE Bianca. So I look forward for KDE Cassandra.
User avatar
mikpap
Level 2
Level 2
 
Posts: 72
Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 5:36 am
Location: Korinthos, Greece

Postby elder on Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:26 pm

Gnome, better than KDE:

- faster
- less buggy
- better integrated with programs
- smaller foot print
- cleaner
- not so cluttered
elder
Level 1
Level 1
 
Posts: 27
Joined: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:28 am

Postby blogger on Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:39 am

Quoting marcus0263:
Good choice
Gnome is much cleaner code IMHO .
KDE I've found to be just too Kludgy! Play with Gnome and later on you can mess with the other Window Managers.


Hello everybody,
I agree with both Elder and Marcus0263:
I just thought I should give Bianca KDE another try, to see the difference between Gnome and KDE.

Clem has done a fantastic job with the Gnome desktop, adding a lot of very useful utilities that can't work in the KDE environment.

What about MintInstall? Can it be implemented in the KDE desktop?
OK. KDE is richer in software choices, if one needs them, but you can always add to Gnome almost anything with Synaptic and MintInstall.

If Gnome is for simple newbies, then I belong! :) I'm simple myself. :lol:

Greetings to all my good friends,
Blogger_Live
SEVERELY ADDICTED TO MINT / CASSANDRA SYNDROME
Image
Image
blogger
Level 4
Level 4
 
Posts: 329
Joined: Sat May 05, 2007 6:00 am
Location: Freeland

Postby clem on Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:51 am

mintInstall is there in the KDE Edition..

Gnome: More professional looking, simpler to use, more stable, great polishing, gives the impression of a finished product.

KDE: Less memory hungry, faster and snappier, more customizable, better designed (in terms of how it uses rc files rather than a repository), better integration with its own set of applications, better session support.

Clem
Image
User avatar
clem
Level 15
Level 15
 
Posts: 5514
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:34 am

Postby blogger on Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:57 am

OK! Now I'm convinced that I am confused! :lol:

Cheers Clem
SEVERELY ADDICTED TO MINT / CASSANDRA SYNDROME
Image
Image
blogger
Level 4
Level 4
 
Posts: 329
Joined: Sat May 05, 2007 6:00 am
Location: Freeland

Postby scorp123 on Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:10 am

clem wrote: Gnome: More professional looking
That is debatable :wink:
User avatar
scorp123
Level 8
Level 8
 
Posts: 2287
Joined: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:19 pm
Location: Switzerland

Postby blogger on Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:28 am

Quoting Clem:
Gnome: More professional looking, simpler to use, more stable, great polishing, gives the impression of a finished product.

I agree.
Working with Bianca KDE for a couple of days, I am convinced that Cassandra (Gnome) is more user-friendly, and more likely to appeal to the new Linux convert.
The KDE desktop is fancier and more appealing to the advanced or the adventurous Linux user. But it offers a great deal of redundant software that is confusing rather than helpful to the un-initiated.
More is not always better.

Even Ubuntu, as I remember, seemed to be more stable and less buggy than Kubuntu.

At the risk of being repetitious, I say that Mint innovations, introduced by Clem, are the most attractive features that make the Gnome desktop so appealing.
IMHO of course. :)
Three cheers for Gnome Mint! :)
SEVERELY ADDICTED TO MINT / CASSANDRA SYNDROME
Image
Image
blogger
Level 4
Level 4
 
Posts: 329
Joined: Sat May 05, 2007 6:00 am
Location: Freeland

Postby sourwire on Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:14 pm

Well, I've never been a fan of GNOME and never liked KDE. To me, KDE looks way too cluttered. GNOME seems more elegant, simpler, but because it's a GNU thing which tries to call Linux stupid GNU/Linux, I don't really like it.
So, my favorite desktop environment is Xfce. It is very very simple, nice and clean, and generally faster. You especially notice faster boot speeds with Xfce.
Now, let's think about it logically, what parts of a desktop environment matter to people most: naming and logo. Let's see, KDE: what kind of a name is that? K Desktop Enviroment? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever! The dragon logo although, is pretty nice.
Next up, GNOME. Even better. What comes to mind when you say "gnome" (I know it's not pronounced that way)?
I imagine a fat, little unfriendly (and stinky too) gnome. And who want a footprint for a mascot? That's ridiculous.
And finally, Xfce. Well, of course as soon as you read the name, "XForms Common Environment" pops to mind. That little mouse signifies speed since mice are very good at running. But wait, there is more. Mice are very quiet, so that guarantees that your computer will run smoothly and quietly with this amazing piece of software.

This post is a big fat joke, please don't flame.
Last edited by sourwire on Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
sourwire
 

Postby msgnomer on Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:35 pm

I've tried a few other DEs, but always came back to GNOME.
Jess
msgnomer
Level 2
Level 2
 
Posts: 59
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:22 pm
Location: NY, USA

Postby kcirick on Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:09 pm

msgnomer wrote:I've tried a few other DEs, but always came back to GNOME.

I second that.

I was a big fan of FVWM for a while, and I did prefer KDE1 over Gnome 1, but nowadays, Gnome all the way
kcirick
Level 1
Level 1
 
Posts: 36
Joined: Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:03 pm

Postby blogger on Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:33 am

sourwire wrote:Well, I've never been a fan of GNOME and never liked KDE. To me, KDE looks way too cluttered. GNOME seems more elegant, simpler, but because it's a GNU thing which tries to call Linux stupid GNU/Linux, I don't really like it.
So, my favorite desktop environment is Xfce. It is very very simple, nice and clean, and generally faster. You especially notice faster boot speeds with Xfce.
Now, let's think about it logically, what parts of a desktop environment matter to people most: naming and logo. Let's see, KDE: what kind of a name is that? K Desktop Enviroment? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever! The dragon logo although, is pretty nice.
Next up, GNOME. Even better. What comes to mind when you say "gnome" (I know it's not pronounced that way)?
I imagine a fat, little unfriendly (and stinky too) gnome. And who want a footprint for a mascot? That's ridiculous.
And finally, Xfce. Well, of course as soon as you read the name, "XForms Common Environment" pops to mind. The a little mouse signifies speed since mice are very good at running. But wait, there is more. Mice are very quiet, so that guarantees that your computer will run smoothly and quietly with this amazing piece of software.

This post is a big fat joke, please don't flame.


Hello Sourwire,
It's good to see another viewpoint; a well-expressed philosophical approach.
We never thought to consider XFCE as another competitive choice.
Perhaps it should have been included in this post, so that people can get some useful information about the pros and cons of this very useful desktop.
I don't think that your opinion is a 'joke'.

Cheers,
Blogger
SEVERELY ADDICTED TO MINT / CASSANDRA SYNDROME
Image
Image
blogger
Level 4
Level 4
 
Posts: 329
Joined: Sat May 05, 2007 6:00 am
Location: Freeland

Postby kenetics on Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:16 am

What ever works best for you and your hardware. Its all good. :D
User avatar
kenetics
Level 5
Level 5
 
Posts: 609
Joined: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:57 pm
Location: Somewhere on a Florida beach

Postby bigbearomaha on Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:04 pm

There are many reasons people like, or do not like various desktop environments.

it may be aesthetics or philosophical, functionality or effectiveness.

The only philosophical issue I have with any DE is when they feel the need to point out they are not windows.

I believe that an OS should not be made to be competitive, it should be made to get the job done in the best way it is capable. the "competition" can come after the fact, if that's what folks really want to do.

By announcing you made your DE to be vastly different looking from windows automatically sets windows up as the measuring stick to judge the quality or capability of your system

all that accomplishes is creating a popularity contest.

but, that is just my two cents also.

Big Bear
Saving the world, one bee at a time
http://bbe-tech.com/
User avatar
bigbearomaha
Level 3
Level 3
 
Posts: 170
Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:34 am
Location: Omaha, NE

Postby blogger on Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:22 am

kenetics wrote:What ever works best for you and your hardware. Its all good. :D


A very good point Ken,
And what makes Linux very attractive is the number of choices one is offered.
Variety is the spice of life, they say. :)
Cheers,
Blogger
SEVERELY ADDICTED TO MINT / CASSANDRA SYNDROME
Image
Image
blogger
Level 4
Level 4
 
Posts: 329
Joined: Sat May 05, 2007 6:00 am
Location: Freeland

Postby blogger on Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:43 am

Hello Bigbearomaha,
Thanks for the very useful links.
Your approach on the issue of preference is even more detailed and practical.
I guess it's all a matter of personal taste.
It's useful to have as many different opinions as possible in the spirit of free exchange of ideas.

Greetings,
Blogger
SEVERELY ADDICTED TO MINT / CASSANDRA SYNDROME
Image
Image
blogger
Level 4
Level 4
 
Posts: 329
Joined: Sat May 05, 2007 6:00 am
Location: Freeland

Postby kcirick on Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:23 am

Just to throw things out there, I happened to really like FVWM. I think most people will say it's ugly just because the default config isn't very eye catching and attractive, but once you know what to do and how to make things happen, you can get a very nice looking WM (Still not a DE, but it's good enough for most people) and it's fast too. Let me know if you like any of the following screenshots:

http://www.fvwm.org/screenshots/desktops/Pierre-Eric_Marchandet-1600x1200/screenshot.jpg
http://aelsi.fr.nf/english.html
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/kciru/screen3.jpg

Cheers
kcirick
Level 1
Level 1
 
Posts: 36
Joined: Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:03 pm

Postby blogger on Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:20 pm

Very interesting Kcirick,
Now, here is another desktop that is worth investigating for the sake of variety.
The screen shots are really impressive. FVWM seems to be fairly attractive.

Greetings,
Blogger
SEVERELY ADDICTED TO MINT / CASSANDRA SYNDROME
Image
Image
blogger
Level 4
Level 4
 
Posts: 329
Joined: Sat May 05, 2007 6:00 am
Location: Freeland

Linux Mint is funded by ads and donations.
 
PreviousNext

Return to Open chat

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests