ONCE AGAIN... FF!! Stop breaking linux with updates
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:19 pm
Mint Update manager love it, updates all the things i have, great. huge selling point V windows. I am a big Linux fan.
HOWEVER.. Shield with question mark.. list of updates. Press update (pretend for a minuet that snide comment thats forming about reading what you install doesn't get spat out)
libglapi-mesa 9.0.3
libgl-mesa-dri
libgl-mesa-glx
Driver = Broke. Steam wont Launch games and errors.
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glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
libGL error: Try again with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose for more details.
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
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Did i fix it ?? yes, I played around a bit and installed the official driver again. But I really shouldn't have to.
Seriously, im not sure who pushes out this Mesa stuff without testing? Is it the MINT Team themselves? Or is it an Canonical thing?
This has happened three times over the course of a year !
Its bloody foolish and makes Linux feel unstable and weak. Are 'we' not at the turning point? the point where Linux could become a viable platform for people for gaming and general use due to windows 8 not being well received and Linux getting lots of positive press?
I posted on the steam forums and a guy with an Nividia card has the same issue. So both main vendors get screwed with an auto update for how many people? perhaps not all but enough to put people off using and learning Linux?
Now my take on it is, Linux has to sort the whole GPU driver thing out. Im fairly sick and tired of hearing how its the vendors fault? how is that so when it was a system update that broke things and not the vendor driver? ohh wait i get it, linux was here first and the gpu vendors have to bend over and open up in order to interact with the linux community, the reality is this isn't going to happen ever 100%. So there must be a mature attitude adopted to testing before update when it comes to the GPU side of things, is it that hard?
Lets look as linux other than a coding box and consider it an alternative easy to use Desktop system capable of competing with MAC OS and Windows. If you use any productivity software (other than music making and coding) your going to need a working GPU driver, its as simple as that, the GPU/APU is becoming if not has become the most important aspect of a desktop operating system!
a simple update shouldn't break this
Is linux just an arse around for nerds? or do we get to a stable point where things are established and moved forward like commercial software? I have already donated to the project so I have in fact part paid for my software, please stop breaking it.
HOWEVER.. Shield with question mark.. list of updates. Press update (pretend for a minuet that snide comment thats forming about reading what you install doesn't get spat out)
libglapi-mesa 9.0.3
libgl-mesa-dri
libgl-mesa-glx
Driver = Broke. Steam wont Launch games and errors.
---------------------------------
glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
libGL error: Try again with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose for more details.
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
----------------------------------
Did i fix it ?? yes, I played around a bit and installed the official driver again. But I really shouldn't have to.
Seriously, im not sure who pushes out this Mesa stuff without testing? Is it the MINT Team themselves? Or is it an Canonical thing?
This has happened three times over the course of a year !
Its bloody foolish and makes Linux feel unstable and weak. Are 'we' not at the turning point? the point where Linux could become a viable platform for people for gaming and general use due to windows 8 not being well received and Linux getting lots of positive press?
I posted on the steam forums and a guy with an Nividia card has the same issue. So both main vendors get screwed with an auto update for how many people? perhaps not all but enough to put people off using and learning Linux?
Now my take on it is, Linux has to sort the whole GPU driver thing out. Im fairly sick and tired of hearing how its the vendors fault? how is that so when it was a system update that broke things and not the vendor driver? ohh wait i get it, linux was here first and the gpu vendors have to bend over and open up in order to interact with the linux community, the reality is this isn't going to happen ever 100%. So there must be a mature attitude adopted to testing before update when it comes to the GPU side of things, is it that hard?
Lets look as linux other than a coding box and consider it an alternative easy to use Desktop system capable of competing with MAC OS and Windows. If you use any productivity software (other than music making and coding) your going to need a working GPU driver, its as simple as that, the GPU/APU is becoming if not has become the most important aspect of a desktop operating system!
a simple update shouldn't break this
Is linux just an arse around for nerds? or do we get to a stable point where things are established and moved forward like commercial software? I have already donated to the project so I have in fact part paid for my software, please stop breaking it.