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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby mank_in on Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:39 am

quote from phoronix :

The Catalyst driver has worked under Ubuntu 11.10 "Oneiric Ocelot" for a number of releases now, but now it's deemed "production" capable. However, as already reported in the forums, if you try to build the Debian packages from the Catalyst 12.1 installer, it's actually broken. You're better off waiting for the Catalyst 12.1 packages to appear in an Ubuntu PPA or the updates repository. If you want to build the packages youself, fetch the latest fglrx-packaging build scripts from Phorogit (a Phoronix Media owned property) where the official Catalyst Linux packaging scripts are housed.
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby chazdg24 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:47 pm

[quote="Graes"][quote="Klaw117"]http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide

here you can find all you need.

This is way to much information for a newbie (I know it was for me). A simple step by step guide, such as the one I provided, is what helped me in the beginning!
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby Graes on Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:38 am

chazdg24 wrote:
Graes wrote:
Klaw117 wrote:http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide

here you can find all you need.

This is way to much information for a newbie (I know it was for me). A simple step by step guide, such as the one I provided, is what helped me in the beginning!


i'm a newbie myself (been on linux since 1st jan) and i used that guide the first time i tried to install (and then uninstall) the drivers from the site :D

anyway i can understand what you mean :)
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby gotjazz on Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:57 pm

hrm I'm back on mint 11, so I can at best reinsall mint12 on my distrohopping partition (doing that richt now in fact) to test, but if this driver works passably then I strongly suggest maintaining up-to-date fglrx packages on the mint repos because mint 12 as-is is completely unusable on current ati hardware without manual driver update.....
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby mintybits on Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:21 pm

I just installed Catalyst 12.1 in Mint 12 64-bit by following these instructions: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu ... tion_Guide
and all seems fine. :D
I chose to install Catalyst manually after downloading it from the AMD website.
I am using Cinnamon so I cannot comment on other desktops.
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AW: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby gotjazz on Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:10 pm

I've also tried it meanwhile. A definite improvement. The system in general is in fact usable now. Only HD-video playback still isn't working the way one would hope
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby chassum on Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:45 pm

Anyone in a postion to try it in dual-head mode?
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Re: AW: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby mintybits on Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:02 am

gotjazz wrote:I've also tried it meanwhile. A definite improvement. The system in general is in fact usable now. Only HD-video playback still isn't working the way one would hope

I have spent more time using it (Mint 12 64-bit, Cinnamon, Catalyst 12.1). A definite improvement is right. Still not fully baked, tho. :?
Display image quality is definitely better, but...
I'm getting some tearing on DVD plyback in Movie Player and just noticeably jerky movement (I have anti-tearing enabled in Catalyst).
Also, whole desktop is a bit jittery - when dragging windows they do not drag smoothly. Effects are jerky.
Every once in a while the desktop throws a brief fit - all windows disappear leaving only wallpaper and then reappear, sometimes with a window in the same "shrunk" mode as when in "overview".
I am running Conky; don't know if that has anything to do with it.

I haven't tried Mint 32-bit with Catalyst 12.1 yet.
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby scarruthers on Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:01 am

mintybits wrote:I just installed Catalyst 12.1 in Mint 12 64-bit by following these instructions: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu ... tion_Guide
and all seems fine. :D
I chose to install Catalyst manually after downloading it from the AMD website.
I am using Cinnamon so I cannot comment on other desktops.


First off, just wanted to thank you for the link, as it ended up solving my problems. However, I had tried going the original route of simply using 12.1 to solve my problems, but I kept getting an error when trying to download that version of the driver (which is also why I'm posting this 2 weeks later, in case someone else can't download the driver and needs an alternative). So, instead, I went the open-source driver route and followed these instructions (from that link, and if you have problems just go read the 'Removing Catalyst/fglrx' section of the page):

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sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev*

sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon
sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
sudo rm -rf /etc/ati


Now everything seems to be rendering correctly...here's to hoping it stays that way.
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby gotjazz on Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:17 am

have you tried hd-video playback?

if i was just web-browsing etc i could live with 12.1 on mint 12 but video playback is really slow
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby gotjazz on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:59 am

btw: has anyone tried one of te ubuntu 12.4 alphas and therefore has an idea how well recent ati cards might run on mint13 in the future?
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby -Ender on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:35 pm

@mintybits and @gotjazz: I've been having serious issues with the new drivers for my 5870 ATI card as well. I wanted to install the proprietary drivers because I do 3d work, watch a lot of HD videos (can't let my 1080p monitor go to waste!), and wanted my fans to stop blowing at mid power every second that my system was on. I installed the 12.1 drivers after reading about so many people having success with them, only to find that moving windows was jerky, video playback was crap, everything on my system felt unbearably laggy, and worse yet I seemed to get a lower frame rate in Blender/Silo with the AMD drivers than I did with the FOSS drivers. However! I have found a solution that works for me that I didn't notice was posted in this thread, and I hope it will work for you. Here's what I did:
    1. gksu amdcccle
    2. Display Options -> Tear Free -> Disable
    3. 3D -> More Settings -> Wait for vertical refresh -> Off, unless application specifies
    4. Closed amdcccle
    5. gksu gedit /etc/environment
    6. At the bottom of the file, add (without quotes): "export CLUTTER_VBLANK=none"
    7. Saved
    8. Restarted X session

And that was it. Now my windows move just as smoothly as they did with the FOSS drivers, the animations are completely smooth, video playback is smooth, the lag is gone, my frame rate with Blender/Silo is drastically improved, and my fans are back down to normal! Step #6 is what seems to be the key, since I've tried doing all of those other steps before and only saw the improvement after I tried tossing in step #6. I haven't done the necessary experimentation to determine which of those steps are necessary and which are not, as I came back to this thread as soon as I confirmed everything was in working order.

There is one caveat though: That bug where opening a drop down menu briefly paints the background through the parent window persists, which is annoying. For me, that's not a show stopper since it only seems to happen the first time you open that particular drop down menu on that window. I can deal with that, considering all of my other complaints seem to have been resolved.

[Update]
I have updated the steps to reflect the changes that are necessary.
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby Lumikki on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:48 pm

-Ender wrote:There is one caveat though: That bug where opening a drop down menu briefly paints the background through the parent window persists, which is annoying. For me, that's not a show stopper since it only seems to happen the first time you open that particular drop down menu on that window. I can deal with that, considering all of my other complaints seem to have been resolved.

How about does screenshot from print screen buttom give correct picture? (Open menu and take screenshot)
Does program Stellarium work?
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby -Ender on Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:10 pm

Unfortunately, the screenshot tool only takes a shot of my background, and Stellarium displays a large number of artifacts.
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby Lumikki on Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:24 pm

-Ender wrote:Unfortunately, the screenshot tool only takes a shot of my background, and Stellarium displays a large number of artifacts.

Okey Thanks. It's then same way as I have able to get.

I readed this from Gentoo web-page, anyone know what does it mean?

"If you're using ati-drivers, then you'll need to disable radeonfb (and probably any other framebuffer drivers) in your kernel config, as it conflicts with the built-in framebuffer in ati-drivers."
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby -Ender on Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:57 pm

I haven't tried this, but from what it sounds like you should be able to append video=radeonfb:off to the command line arguments in your grub menu. To just try it once when you boot do this:
  • When grub loads, type 'e' to bring up the kernel options
  • Scroll to the line that begins with 'linux'
  • add to the end (without quotes): "video=radeonfb:off"
  • type 'F10' to boot

Perhaps someone else can aim you in the right direction if I'm misunderstanding.
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby gotjazz on Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:12 am

alright - seems this is going somewhere.
still not where we need to be though since the jerkiness in videos is traded for quite visible tearing on my end.....

not fit for movie-evenings :D
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby -Ender on Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:44 pm

Are you getting that tearing with any video player you use? What graphics card do you have? I'm not getting any tearing on my side (with VLC or Totem), so maybe there's another setting that you need for your particular card.
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby gotjazz on Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:02 pm

only tried vlc - atm i don't have mint12 installed anymore but I'll put it back on tomorrow and check
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Re: To Any One Who is Having ATI issue Here is Some Help

Postby -Ender on Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:29 pm

I've also read that some people are noticing that switching the Image Options to "Use graphics processor for scaling" is improving their Gnome3 performance. Just another thing to check.
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