hey clem, question.

[trippboxer]

hey man, what do you think about beryl? a lot of buzz is floating on the net about beryl and it's open gl accelerators. would this be a viable desktop environment or are you going to stick to gnome? from what i've seen it looks nice but i don't know anything about programming. is there any way you could get a package of beryl ready for easy installation so that mint users can download it and install it without all of the problems that a lot of people have?

later,
vaportrail

[clem]

Hi,

It's planned for 3.x. I think it's a very promising project and an already great piece of software. Their developers are very active and hopefully when we start looking at it for Linux Mint 3.x they'll have fixed a series of issues (java swing 1.5 guis, toggle button on pygtk.. etc).

Clem

[Alephcat]

the next Beryl release is scheduled for 20th Feb (coincidence?) by which time they should have fixed most of the outstanding bugs with the current release

[clem]

ah ah !! Forget about it !!

[trippboxer]

cool, but is there anyway that someone can please make a package that is ready to install using kpackage or some other installer. something simple as i am not too linux savvy when it comes to tar ballz and other kinds of files that have to be manually installed. i just need something easy because i am coming over from windows and don't have any programming experience. that's one reason why a lot of people like linux but go back to windows, there is no standard in installations. there are too many ways to install something and only a couple of them are simple.

vaportrail

[clem]

That's funny I would have said the opposite. In a Debian based distribution the ONLY right way to install something is via APT... it's documented, standardized and extremely consistent. If you install Firefox, Opera, Google Earth, whatever you want... the procedure is the same, and is defined by your distribution.

In Windows, it's pure chaos. Depending on who's developing the software you'll end up running a self extracting zip file, some nullsoft installer, some binary you just don't have a clue of... or whatever you think is going to install the soft you want without doing stuff to your system you actually can't check... anyway, you see what I mean?

Clem

[marcus0263]

That's funny I would have said the opposite. In a Debian based distribution the ONLY right way to install something is via APT... it's documented, standardized and extremely consistent. If you install Firefox, Opera, Google Earth, whatever you want... the procedure is the same, and is defined by your distribution.

In Windows, it's pure chaos. Depending on who's developing the software you'll end up running a self extracting zip file, some nullsoft installer, some binary you just don't have a clue of... or whatever you think is going to install the soft you want without doing stuff to your system you actually can't check... anyway, you see what I mean?

Clem

AAAH yes, Apt is a beautiful thing!!!!!!!! Only thing better is portage

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apt-get install <package name>

Can't really get any simpler than that, and apt does a wonderful job with dependancies. I have to work with Redhat, Fedora and CentOS at work, I just want to SCREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM.

OK, EOR....

[trippboxer]

i was just surfing over linuxtracker.org and was reading about the latest beta of mepis and it stated that beryl is in the repository. i will check to see if i can manually add the repository to mint, especially if it is a one click install.

[Alephcat]

Beryl has its own repository's have a look at my howto if you want to know how to add them and install Beryl.

[justo]

I am on Mint Bianca live now.It is great,It is beautiful. I have not tested everything yet.But so far all I did works fine.My Mint Bea had an update that crashed my wireless.This has the wireless working.If I load it I hope my wireless stays on if I take updates.The Mint gets better all the time.I like the improved looks and control buttons. Thanks Clem.