First impressions, without even installing.

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First impressions, without even installing.

Postby neocookie on Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:20 am

Wow. Bianca looks good. I love the menu/panel layout as compared to the default gnome layout. Looks much more intuitive. And with it being based on Ubuntu, I'm considering it as a better option for installation on the family machine(s).

However, as nice as it all looks... I think there is too much of a community feel about the project. Ubuntu is forging ahead in dominance because it looks polished from a brand perspective: You're downloading "Ubuntu", you're installing "Ubuntu", you're using "Ubuntu". Hoary/Dapper/Edgy... most users don't even care, as long as it works on their machine. The brand is strong, its used well, and because of its corporate feel people get the feeling that they're getting something great for free.

From that perspective, I think LinuxMint would benefit from a branding exercise - consolidate a brand, develop a style, and stick with it. I don't think LinuxMint or the release names fit the superb work that has been done on this project. Even projects such as SUSE and Mandriva lack the polish that Ubuntu has from a brand front, and I think Redhat might only just be on a par.

I don't think it would take much work. A new name (or an elaboration on the current one), a new take on the Ubuntu logo, and a corporate redesign of the site/forum would get things rolling. And I think that with a small amount of effort put into the project in that way, there would be much more take-up.
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Re: First impressions, without even installing.

Postby scorp123 on Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:29 pm

neocookie wrote: I think there is too much of a community feel about the project.
Maybe because it really is a community project?? :D :D :D

neocookie wrote: Ubuntu is forging ahead in dominance
And? I fail to see what this has to do with Mint? If Ubuntu want to go ahead with their "dominance" why not let them?

neocookie wrote: From that perspective, I think LinuxMint would benefit from a branding exercise
You need to talk to clem about this ... this is basically his one-man-show. As far as I understand he's focussing on technical issues now, e.g. working on getting a KDE-based release out of the door. You have to bear in mind how relatively young Mint as a distro is 8)

neocookie wrote: I don't think it would take much work.
Well, why don't you post suggestions then? e.g. screenshots, or pictures that show what you have in mind? There are others here who posted suggestions about changing the web design, the default wallpaper, and so on. As I said above: this really is a community effort here :wink:
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Re: First impressions, without even installing.

Postby Uncle Bob on Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:21 pm

neocookie wrote:From that perspective, I think LinuxMint would benefit from a branding exercise - blah-blah-blah


And there I was under the impression our brand is LinuxMint or just Mint. We even have our own drink! How many other Linux Distributions do you know of that gives you a free complimentary drink on the house? Simply go to "The Mint Café" and get your complimentary drink.

Anyway, I respect your opinion and feel free to contribute towards this distro. We have our resident Artists that does an effing brilliant job and if the Boss-Man himself likes the idea/image/suggestion it gets included. Also, there is regular ad hoc polls about what to do next etc and based on the result of that - well, follow the posts on the forum and you'll get the picture.

To get back to your point about branding. Ubuntu goes overboard with their branding and (personally) it gets on my tits. If I have Ubuntu installed on my machine, I know I'm using it, I don't want to be constantly reminded of it whatever I do and where ever I look on my machine, seeing the logo/name etc everywhere. IMO that is for retards that suffer from Goldfish Memory Syndrome ;)

This is a fairly new disto so the emphasis is to get the technical side of things as close to perfect as possible. After that, all the bells and whistles will follow.
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Postby NiksaVel on Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:56 pm

I have to agree with a lot of what the man said... after all I pretty much said the same thing...



Ubuntu is forging ahead in dominance
And? I fail to see what this has to do with Mint? If Ubuntu want to go ahead with their "dominance" why not let them?


Scorp you have to realise that it's difficult it is to think in an open, free, equal and non-competitive way... it's a totaly new idea, even for me who grew up in a communist country :) :lol: :lol: :lol:


but the fact remains that the better a product is, the more people will use it...


As far as the branding goes, I think LiuxMint or just Mint is perfectly fine, and I believe that the community through mintArt project will provide a very good branding and quality polish ... let's just leave clem to work on the technical part of what makes this distro so great and appealing...
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First impressions, without even installing.

Postby npap on Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:53 pm

Welcome Neocookie,
Bianca is at the Mint Café every night, serving all the members and our guests.

Please feel free to stop by for a virtual Mint cocktail :) Our official drink now is Diabolo Menthe.
So here's to your health and a long-lasting friendship.

Regards, Npap
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Postby scorp123 on Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:32 pm

NiksaVel wrote: Scorp you have to realise that it's difficult it is to think in an open, free, equal and non-competitive way... it's a totaly new idea, even for me who grew up in a communist country :)
Ah, come on .... the good old SFRJ wasn't that bad. There were always good things you could firmly count on ... e.g. that the police ("Milicija") would stop you for whatever BS they could come up with ("Oh you don't have the chains for your tyres with you ... Oh, that's bad, that's gonna cost you 20.-- DM .... " "... but: IT'S SUMMER !!!!!" "Don't care. 20.-- Deutschmarks please ... or else !!! ... " :twisted: ) and that really everybody was corrupt and stubborn (or both!) down to the bone.

If we apply SFRJ thinking here .... Let's bribe the guys at Ubuntu to put a red star in their logo (red stars are always good), have them bribe us in return (let's think about the reasons for this later ... the most important thing is we get our bribes), let's head to the next Café and have a few drinks on the house and chant BS about "brotherhood + unity" (bratsvo i jedinstvo) together ... :D

If someone asks anything apply these typical SFRJ excuses in this order:
    We don't know anything.
    We are not responsible.
    These are orders from Belgrade ... don't ask.
    Tito loves you, my son.
    The Slovenes designed it.
    The Croatians sold it off to the West.
    The Serbians screwed it up.
    The Bosnians ... oh well you know them, right?
    The Makedonians smuggled this from Greece, I dunno.
    This is some decadent Western sh*t, don't touch it.
    This is some hippie modern socialist sh*t straight from Moscow, oh comrade!
    Uh, what? (act as if you are drunk + burp a lot ... communist state employees are not supposed to look sober during their work hours!!)
    20 DM and I forget that I seen you ...


Oh ... I forgot. We should rename the whole thing: YUbuntu :D
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Postby NiksaVel on Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:41 pm

YUbuntu



muuuaaaahhhahahahahah ROFLMAO!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

and instead of a start button we should have a GO button... and call it YUGO :))))))))

btw.... while on the topic:

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Croatia
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Yugoslavia
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Postby scorp123 on Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:10 pm

NiksaVel wrote: and instead of a start button we should have a GO button... and call it YUGO :))))))))

“You go what? I don't go anywhere! What the **** are you talking about?�

~ Oscar Wilde on Yugoslavia :D

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Serbia_and_Montenegro

:D :D
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Postby NiksaVel on Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:32 pm

ahhahahhahhaa

Roots of this divine nation reach back to many many millennias BC when a Slavic-Klingon tribe settled in the area
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