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Postby spiritraveller on Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:28 pm

Just installed Bea, and the look is definitely better than Ubuntu, and I like that the repositories are set up so that I can use the apps that I want. I prefer FOSS apps when they exist. But unfortunately there are a few proprietary items that are necessary to get things done right.

Here are some issues I've run into. They may or may not be issues for other people. I have also included a work-around if I know of one.

Hellanzb. Where is it? I love this program. It is in the Debian repositories. I thought it was also in the Ubuntu repositories. Maybe I'm wrong.

OpenOffice Base. I want this app. Why is it not included?

Flash 9 Beta 2 makes Firefox crash very frequently. I've uninstalled it. I hate Flash ads, but I like to watch videos on YouTube. So instead of replacing it with the stable Flash (Flash 7), I installed the Firefox extension "Video Downloader". This lets you download and view Flash videos from YouTube and a few other sites without even having Flash installed. Pretty nice.

CNN Video doesn't work. I don't have an answer for this. But it's not crucial.

msttcorefonts - IMHO this should be part of the default install. It legally downloads several Microsoft fonts, which improve compatibility for certain websites (CNN especially) and Word documents opened in OpenOffice. Workaround: install it yourself with Synaptic and restart Firefox and OpenOffice.
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Re: Suggestions

Postby scorp123 on Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:20 am

spiritraveller wrote:Flash 9 Beta 2 makes Firefox crash very frequently.
Hmmm ... Not on my system. And I too frequent YouTube a lot 8)

spiritraveller wrote:CNN Video doesn't work.
Works perfectly here. I use the mplayer-plugin. CNN will first give me a "Plugin Warning", e.g. that Windows Media Player is not installed ... of course it isn't. I am not even using Windows :D Clicking onto "Continue to Video" will load the mplayer-plugin and CNN's videos will then play without problem.
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Postby rlozano on Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:16 am

well, not all that we want can be found in one out of the box installation, but definitely we have the freedom to add and remove anything we want. ;-)

synaptic serves the purpose. :-)
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Postby scorp123 on Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:52 am

rlozano wrote:synaptic serves the purpose. :-)
Or rather: Synaptic is your friend :D
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Re: Suggestions

Postby marcus0263 on Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:15 pm

spiritraveller wrote: <snip>

OpenOffice Base. I want this app. Why is it not included?
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Yep, why isn't it included?
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Postby clem on Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:40 pm

A CD can only contain 700MB of compressed data. Not everybody needs a database application on their desktop.

When OpenOffice was chosen as the default office suite for Linux Mint two facts came to my attention: the whole suite takes a lot of space and only two of its applications are used a lot by people (word processing and spreadsheet).

In Bea a third application was added simply because people do receive a lot of PPT jokes by email.. from their friends who are still running Windows. And so they need a way to "read" those files.

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Postby marcus0263 on Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:04 pm

clem wrote:A CD can only contain 700MB of compressed data. Not everybody needs a database application on their desktop.

When OpenOffice was chosen as the default office suite for Linux Mint two facts came to my attention: the whole suite takes a lot of space and only two of its applications are used a lot by people (word processing and spreadsheet).

In Bea a third application was added simply because people do receive a lot of PPT jokes by email.. from their friends who are still running Windows. And so they need a way to "read" those files.

Clem

I beg to differ, base is very much in demand and Open Office is a suite.

So why not just have the full version available in the repositories and why isn't it available?
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Postby clem on Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:01 am

The main concern is the size and the bandwidth, but it's a good point. I suppose these packages should be in the repository. I'll look into that.

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Postby marcus0263 on Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:37 pm

clem wrote:The main concern is the size and the bandwidth, but it's a good point. I suppose these packages should be in the repository. I'll look into that.

Clem
Cool Beans, thanks. The need is Open Office is a major contender against M$ Office, base is a decent replacement for Access. Having viable alternatives to M$ is needed for Linux to continue to grow.

BTW - you're doing a great job with this distro!!

Cheers
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Postby ccc771 on Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:31 am

did anyone say suggestions!

1. the embedded streaming player needs to be changed from mplayer to a realplayer plugin
2. needs something like wine embedded in MINT to so we can play play WINDOWS games on our MINT if we want to
3. Needs something like alien included to help MINT users translate RPM files to debian packages

this lastest distribition Bianca MINT 2.2 is great ! i love it! if you can get around to the above suggestions would be even better...!

Keep Up the good work MINT Programers...:)
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Postby marcus0263 on Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:49 am

ccc771 wrote:did anyone say suggestions!

1. the embedded streaming player needs to be changed from mplayer to a realplayer plugin

Disagree, mplayer is about the best out there, plays pretty much all media
ccc771 wrote:2. needs something like wine embedded in MINT to so we can play play WINDOWS games on our MINT if we want to
Install Cedega
ccc771 wrote:3. Needs something like alien included to help MINT users translate RPM files to debian packages

rpm2tgz works great
http://www.slackware.com/config/packages.php

Either that or just install alien?

BTW - rpm's SUCK

ccc771 wrote:this lastest distribition Bianca MINT 2.2 is great ! i love it! if you can get around to the above suggestions would be even better...!

Keep Up the good work MINT Programers...:)
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Postby ccc771 on Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:42 pm

thanks for your reply marcus!

i wasnt sure how to use the mplayer plugin but now i have the info i need from the above posts! :)

yes i know about cedega but its not free, but i will consider it in the future.
Obviously...to develop software costs money$ maybe in the future the people from Mint will consider a non free version with all these things pre installed.
for people who want this from the get go.

cheers!
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Postby marcus0263 on Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:01 am

ccc771 wrote:thanks for your reply marcus!

Welcome

ccc771 wrote:i wasnt sure how to use the mplayer plugin but now i have the info i need from the above posts! :)

mplayer has been around for a long time and really is great. Another one you might look at is vlc.

ccc771 wrote:yes i know about cedega but its not free, but i will consider it in the future.

It's about $5 a month, I've tried it from time to time but I usually bag it. It does a fair job, but I'm not overly impressed. It really comes down to if you want more of the mainstream games get an Xbox, Playstation, etc.. Until more main stream game companies start porting to Linux we're kind of stuck. There are few decent games out there, but few and far between

ccc771 wrote:Obviously...to develop software costs money$ maybe in the future the people from Mint will consider a non free version with all these things pre installed.
for people who want this from the get go.

There is, it's wine but you need to configure and tweak it.

ccc771 wrote:cheers!

Cheers -
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Re: Suggestions

Postby antiquexray on Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:43 am

scorp123 wrote:Works perfectly here. I use the mplayer-plugin. CNN will first give me a "Plugin Warning", e.g. that Windows Media Player is not installed ... of course it isn't. I am not even using Windows :D Clicking onto "Continue to Video" will load the mplayer-plugin and CNN's videos will then play without problem.


I can't get the video to work. I click on the "continue button and all I get is sound. What else can I try? BTW, I did follow Alephcat's instructions on how to get BBC and CNN video working, but I sacrificed the ability to see other video with MPlayer. I didn't know how to undo, so I reinstalled Mint.
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Re: Suggestions

Postby Alephcat on Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:53 am

antiquexray wrote:I can't get the video to work. I click on the "continue button and all I get is sound. What else can I try? BTW, I did follow Alephcat's instructions on how to get BBC and CNN video working, but I sacrificed the ability to see other video with MPlayer. I didn't know how to undo, so I reinstalled Mint.


That is odd, CNN works for me, what version of Mint are you using? Did you uncheck the "use Xvideo" box?
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