Linux Mint as a Package for Ubuntu

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Linux Mint as a Package for Ubuntu

Postby Johnny on Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:31 am

Why not make a "linux-mint-desktop" package just like the "kubuntu-desktop" package so that Kubuntu and Ubuntu users could install or just try Linux Mint using one simple command without needing to download and install a completely different distribution?
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Re: Linux Mint as a Package for Ubuntu

Postby scorp123 on Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:03 am

Johnny wrote:Why not make a "linux-mint-desktop" package just like the "kubuntu-desktop" package so that Kubuntu and Ubuntu users could install or just try Linux Mint using one simple command without needing to download and install a completely different distribution?

I absolutely second that! That would be very very cool. Given that Ubuntu and Kubuntu can do that and given that LinuxMint is not that far away from the two (at least "Barbara" wasn't ... I haven't tried "Bea" yet) this should be possible. Clem? S'il vous pla
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Linux Mint as a Package for Ubuntu

Postby npap on Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:04 pm

Hello scorpion 123,

I am already running Kubuntu Edgy on my Bea istallation. That way you get lots of packages not included in Mint. I do have a couple of problems though.
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Re: Linux Mint as a Package for Ubuntu

Postby scorp123 on Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:12 pm

npap wrote:I am already running Kubuntu Edgy on my Bea istallation.

But what about the other way round? e.g. modify Ubuntu Edgy so it becomes a LinuxMint?
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Linux Mint as a Package for Ubuntu

Postby npap on Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:10 pm

I could never download Ubuntu Edgy without any problems in the ISO file :?

I tried and tried again. Maybe that was good for me because I discovered Linux Mint. Good for Mint, too.

As far as your question is concerned, that was already done by Clem, I think.
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Postby kenetics on Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:30 pm

I installed Edgy on my Win XP computer but it wouldn't install on my newly built one. Mint installed without a problem. It was either my cd combo drive spinning too fast (sounded like a tornado!) or a problem with my SiS on-board video on the new box. The cd drive went slower with Mint.

I did have to reconfigure the set up as it came up with video driver unknown. Although I had video, it wasn't until I configured Mint to use the SiS driver that I got full functionality and was able to change the resolution.
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Postby techne on Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:36 pm

Why not?

The reason is that Linux Mint is not a desktop. Kubuntu does what it does because KDE itself is already a separate package. The same kind of condition is true of Xubuntu: XFce exists separately. However, Mint is geared toward becoming its own distribution in its own right. Although Barbara was built as if Mint was just Ubuntu with a few extras, successive versions, beginning with Bea, will be more than a mere add-on package.

Besides, some of what Mint does is already provided as a package for Ubuntu via Automatrix. A "linux-mint-desktop" package would duplicate that package (at this point).

I would prefer the developers to concentrate on creating an excellent distribution than get side-tracked into niche projects such as making it easier for Ubuntu to remain popular in spite of its missteps.
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Postby clem on Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:18 am

I couldn't have said it better. Thanks techne.

Indeed. It is feasible, and it would require extra-work, and as mentioned above it is not our number #1 priority.

Barbara was 99% edgy, Bea is probably still 90% edgy... Bianca will be less than that. Although future version of Linux Mint will be compatible with Ubuntu packages and repositories, we're introducing more and more differences and sometimes taking a different direction than Ubuntu.

It is possible to make a meta-package that would include all of Bea+Barbara changes and allow Ubuntu users to get a similar desktop, but it would require extra work... and at the moment I see more important things that need to be done.

If you look at the Kubuntu project, they have different ways to install their distribution on a computer:
- live CD
- alternate install
- kubuntu-desktop on top of Ubuntu
- upgrade from previous Ubuntu versions

We, as a project, only provide the live CD option. I know there is a need for the other options to be done, but we're still a very small team and before we address "different ways to do one thing" we want to make sure we're finished with making that "one thing" the best as possible.

Now, if somebody wants to take responsibility and lead one of these sub-projects, that would be great. But as far as I'm concerned the priority goes to Bianca (2.2) and after that to Linux Mint 2.3.
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Postby Peakpc on Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:56 pm

Clem, I am very happy to hear that you are dedicated to the next version of mint (2.2,2.3....). I do like the Ubuntu base but they are way too purist for me , I just want the OS to be as useful as possible. (and yours is!) 8)
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