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Is Caja a joke?

Postby warp on Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:28 pm

Hmm, are the developers of Mate taking the Mickey out of it's followers?
Caja can't be seen as a mature file manager to replace Nautilus. Can it?

In all the mentioned pro's and con's about Mint 13, the absence of Nautilus and/or the presence of Caja is not mentioned once, which I can understand now that I've tried Mint 13 Mate.
Sorry, I'll stick to Mint 11 for as long as Caja is not up to par with the features that Nautilus has to offer.
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Re: Is Caja a joke?

Postby sagirfahmid3 on Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:40 pm

Better yet, go with Debian Squeeze Gnome (yes, it still uses the much more useful and sexy Gnome 2.xx).
Lower RAM usage to go with that too (125MB idle RAM on Debian Gnome compared to around 200MB on the Ubuntus and Mints).
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Re: Is Caja a joke?

Postby Oscar799 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:29 am

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Re: Is Caja a joke?

Postby squeezy on Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:29 am

What's actually wrong with Caja for you? I've used it extensively and it works exactly the same as Nautilus in GNOME 2 for me.
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Re: Is Caja a joke?

Postby AlbertP on Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:36 am

Caja is basically Gnome 2.32's Nautilus - the Nautilus included with Mint is from Gnome 3. Maybe Caja is a little modified, but overall it's still the same.
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Re: Is Caja a joke?

Postby warp on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:04 am

Caja is NOT basically Gnome 2.32's Nautilus.For one, it' s lacking all kind of modification possibilities.
Although "Nautilus Scripts" can be integrated, there are to many functions that are missing vs Gnome 2's Nautilus. Must be, otherwise there would be no reason to alter the file manager and call it Caja. Besides I do want the new kernel and Gnome3 libs, albeit to use the new Gimp 2.8!

I use the filemamager intensively, I open all my files through it and therefore I'm very much dependant on all kind of preview features.
Like cover-thumbnailer to identify artists and albums in my directory based music collection, and to have a quick glance at my incoming,pre-workflow, photocollection with RAW/NEF images.
The cover-thumbnailer workaround is to install Nautilus and Cover-Thumbnailer and let Nautilus then do the thumbnail indexing and as a result Caja follow's suit.
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Re: Is Caja a joke?

Postby xenopeek on Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:43 pm

Caja is a fork of Nautilus, renamed because GNOME's trademarks I think. Some of the add-ons to Nautilus are indeed not yet rewritten to work with Caja, you might also want to check the MATE website (http://mate-desktop.org/) or forums and see if the developers of MATE are working on that.
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Re: Is Caja a joke?

Postby warp on Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:20 pm

Although the fork thingy is well known, we were to accept a better Gnome, since the old one no longer did suffice.(??)
Well i.m.h.o. a better Gnome means at least a file manager that equals or, when possible, excels the old one.
I really can't bear losing all the tweaks and mods of Nautilus, it would break the deal, so to speak.

New development:
Switched to the Cinnamon version, and there the filemanager (=Nautilus) is as crippled as the Mate version, or even worse: no "home-reload-back-forth" button in sight.
Keyboard shortcuts are fine working in cli mode, they' re not ment for use in a graphic shell. (can' t afford to lose the grip on the mouse, it might run away)
I managed to get the thumbnailer working for anything but NEF/RAW files.

In the end to me it' s all a bit like the meat and vegetable producers strategie: give it all a blend taste and the masses will eat it all.
Unfortunately for them I like the real/old taste of lamb, mutton, sprouts, chicory and capsicums and for that matter, even their previews.
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Re: Is Caja a joke?

Postby xenopeek on Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:15 am

Nautilus on Gnome 3 (on top of which Cinnamon runs) is indeed dumbed down, and a lot of users share your sense of loss as the Gnome developers remove functionality in their bid to simplifying everything for average users.

For ultimate in configurability, try SpaceFM as a file manager (have a look here: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/spacefm- ... -pane.html). Or Dolphin might satisfy.
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Postby Fixitmanarizona on Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:55 am

Marlin is another file manager project I like. It's not fully developed yet but it has a lot of potential. It includes a previewer in the file browser, which I've always preferred, yet is quite lightweight. I agree, Dolphin is certainly worth a shot, though. I'm seriously awaiting a full-featured version of Marlin, though!
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