Why oh why do you say that? It isn't really that hard.clem wrote:I'm not sure Mint is a good base for a server.
Bloat. KDE has no business being on a server ... The servers we have here don't even have their own keyboards and mice ... Why would they need a GUI then? There will never ever be anyone sitting in front of them with a mouse in their hand.bigbearomaha wrote: It is gui based on kde
WebMin is known for having security issues. That's a big no no no here.bigbearomaha wrote: webmin
Yes, I guess those lazy admins of those Ubuntu servers had the same excuse before Canonical pulled the plug on their servers.bigbearomaha wrote: The great thing about Linux is there is room for creativity and there is more than one way to do things. There is also not just one "right" way.
Oh man, chill out for crying out loud. If I really wanted to insult anyone I can be *far* more efficient at it than that. If you can't stand my style then just ignore my postings for crying out loud. I am really getting tired of people interpreting BS I did not write and being so overly sensitive. If you can't stand what people write or if you can't stand their style then simply ignore them and stay away from their postings - it's as easy as that. Nobody forces you to read what I write and nobody is forced to respond to my postings and my postings are neither the "ultimate truth" about anything. I have my opinion and I voice it, yes. Can't stand that? Then just feel free to ignore me but quit whining please.bigbearomaha wrote: insults and putdowns is more the way I perceive it, but to each his own.
While I agree to the above I still maintain my opinion that KDE has no business being on a *Server* installation (desktop or 'Workstation' is another story). Chances are that you will never ever even physically sit in front of your server (because servers are usually installed in a server room anyway and you never ever go there unless there is a hardware problem). And even if you intend to use GUI programs remotely (e.g. via VNC or FreeNX) then there are far lighter and way faster options than GNOME or KDE, e.g. light-weight window managers such as "blackbox" or "fluxbox".bigbearomaha wrote: In regards to kde, if left alone, yes it is "bloated" but there are ways to minimize and reduce a lot of the overhead.
Sure, but webmin has a track record of having had security flaws. I of course see it's usefulness, but I am picky when it comes to security.bigbearomaha wrote: in regards to webmin, again the beauty of linux is that things progress,they can be fixed and improved upon.
You're comparing apples and oranges here. For starters, Ubuntu Server and Ubuntu Desktop are radically different fromt end-user's point of view. So while both use the same package base and the same repos what gets shipped in the package is totally different. The server version is totally trimmed down and only contains the absolute minimum that is necessary to run a server (e.g. no GUI per default). And that is *good*. Exactly what you would want on a server. And I don't see why a Mint server version should not take the same approach.bigbearomaha wrote: Much the same as Mint does. Al ot of what Mint offers is not necessary, ubuntu itself offers of the necessary stuff, yet you find yourself using Mint?
Because it reflects my opinion. We are all entitled to have our own opinions.bigbearomaha wrote: You are very good at pointing out all that you think is wrong,
You are again talking lots of crap up there. Not that I need to prove anything here to anyone, but I can find dozens of postings here where I did *precisely* that. And if you are too over-sensitive or too obsessed about me being "insulting" or anything then that is absolutely fine with me. I don't need to prove anything to you and I don't really care about what you think how I am supposed to use "my talents" or not. I will simply take comfort in the fact that those people whom I helped so far simply know better than youbigbearomaha wrote: used to to inspire and support others instead of tearing them down because you personally don't see the value in them.
Exactlybigbearomaha wrote: you don't have to read or care about anything I write here.
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