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How my Linux Mint died.

Postby sourwire on Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:18 am

This is how it happened. I was trying to install Beryl on my beautiful, customized Mint. Since I can't get Internet on Linux, I have to use Windows to download every single .deb package that I need by hand (crazy business).
So pretty much most of the time you open a package, it tells you that the dependencies are not satisfied (some stupid file that you forgot to download).
You restart the computer, boot to Windows, download the darn thing, boot back into Linux, and so on. Very annoying and time consuming process. Let's just say that.
Well, this time, it was one of those packages that was supposed to get my libcairo2 working which was supposed to get my beryl-plugins working which was supposed to get beryl-core working. So I open the file, it installs, then tells me that the dependencies are broken. Ok, I go to the terminal, do sudo apt-get install -f Tells me a bunch of stuff... blah blah blah, continue? [Y,n]. Y. Oops. Guess what, after I typed in Y my dear Linux started killing itself. First, it deleted a bunch of weird files I never even seen, then I started recognizing familiar names... gnome-panel, gnome-session, gedit, amarok, firefox-gnome-support, etc.
OH NO! Icons began disappearing off the panel! The mintMenu won't start!
AAAAARGH!
Next thing you know, the dumb thing is done suiciding. Ok, I try to reboot the computer. Oh wait! I almost forgot, since everything has been just removed, there is no possible way to get the shutdown menu. Great. Just hold the power button for a few seconds. Reboot, Linux is now officially a dark screen with absolutely nothing on it. Thanks, stupid package, you ruined everything.

I guess I could have chosen no instead of yes, but that would mean that I wouldn't be able to either install or remove any of the software.

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Postby scorp123 on Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:03 am

Why oh why don't you fix your internet connection first and then install stuff cleanly via the right tools directly under Linux? :wink:
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Postby Sorensei on Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:12 am

Considering his other posts, I think he tried... :wink:
I don't have a solution, but I do admire the problem.
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Postby scorp123 on Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:55 am

Sorensei wrote:Considering his other posts, I think he tried... :wink:
Yes, but you don't really install "unimportant" and non-essential stuff like Beryl while there are other more urgent problems on the system? Fix the urgent problems first, install eye-candy later .... At least that would be my approach.
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Postby Sorensei on Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:23 am

Well, yes, that's the logical approach.
Perhaps he wanted some eyecandy as "comfort food" before re-tackling the internet access problem... I don't know, when my connection dies for any reason I'm usually totally obsessed with restoring it, but that's just me :wink:
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Postby scorp123 on Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:57 am

Sorensei wrote: when my connection dies for any reason I'm usually totally obsessed with restoring it, but that's just me :wink:
Nope, not just you :D
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I tried hard, seriously

Postby sourwire on Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:48 pm

I seriously don't know what else to try. I tried Googling, asking on different forums, was almost going to ask Linksys to make a driver for the danged adapter, but absolutely nothing works.

And by the way, Beryl is a very awesome thingy and since I have already given up on the Internet under Linux, why not install it? Right?

I just wanted to tell you my sad story. Who else am I going to tell it to, my stuffed penguins?

Yes, but you don't really install "unimportant" and non-essential stuff like Beryl while there are other more urgent problems on the system? Fix the urgent problems first, install eye-candy later .... At least that would be my approach.


Yes! That's also my approach. On Windows my only eye-candy is wallpaper.
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Postby bigbearomaha on Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:14 am

Obviously I've missed something.

Why can you not get internet access in Linux? That is one of the easiest things to do in Linux, from recent updates, it's almost impossible to NOT have internet access, especially if you have dsl or a cable modem.


just curious.

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Re: I tried hard, seriously

Postby scorp123 on Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:20 am

sourwire wrote: Linksys to make a driver for the danged adapter
Most Linksys stuff works under Linux. Besides "drivers" don't exist on Linux ... they are called "modules" and are already in the kernel.

What adapter do you have? How about trying another one or trying another connection method?
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WUSB54G

Postby sourwire on Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:41 pm

My adapter is Linksys WUSB54G. Version 1.
They only provide a driver for Windows. It seems like Linux Mint supports it, but WPA or WEP? I couldn't connect to either. I also tried an unsecured access point, but its signal is too weak, no wonder it didn't connect up.

I really Ubuntu 7.04 would be the answer to my Linux woes. In the release notes, I noticed that Feisty Fawn was supposed to support most wireless adapters, have 3D desktop effects, out-of-the-box support for WPA. That's exacly what I wanted. I bought a CD off Ebay with a little badge (which turned out to be a sticker) for the computer case (says "Powered by Ubuntu"). Unfortunately, it turns out that 3D effects only work sometimes (when they want to, it's still an 'experimental version'). Ubuntu didn't recognize my wireless adapter and restricted drivers didn't help.

So this is how I went back to Linux Mint.
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Postby Husse on Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:18 am

Perhaps this can solve your connection problems:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296959&page=3
It's for Ubuntu 6.10 but should work in 7.0.4 I think, but there have been changes that may prevent it from working
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Postby ve3sre on Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:02 am

It strikes me that the simplest "interim" solution is not to go from "wireless" back to "dialup", but rather to go from "wireless" back to "wired".

In fact at home I have a wireless router, but have never bothered to buy wireless cards for my machines...just connect "wired" and have shut off the radio in the wireless router.

I'm not all that concerned about "ugly" cables, my home network always works, I don't have the security hassles of wireless nor the occasional driver issue with running wireless on Linux.

Maybe I'm lazy :) but I'd rather have working Linux systems than wireless internet.
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Postby l19l91l on Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:12 pm

Not everyone can run wires from the 2 floor to the basement. I've been trying as well to set up this crap and I'm with no luck either. I have not got it to work with Ubuntu and since I heard about mint I tried it out as well and it still doesn't work. I'm very upset with this adapter.
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Postby linuxviolin on Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:53 pm

ve3sre ===> I am completely with you! 8) :D
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