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Re: Nautilus stinks! Why in the heck are we still using it?

Postby MALsPa on Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:53 am

veggen wrote:Hmm, I seem to be the only one who still likes Nautilus... I got hooked on it's List View. Hated it at first, but I now don't understand why no other file manager has that view, it's really useful. Ok, well, Marlin has it, but it's a Nautilus fork so it doesn't count.
But still, I agree with bimsebasse. When they ax the extra pane (F3), Nautilus gets the boot.


While I prefer to use Dolphin, I think Nautilus is okay. Like you, I prefer List view. Some reasons why I prefer Dolphin:

- Easy to customize the toolbar. For example, Nautilus has no "New Tab" button and no "Home" button that you can put on the toolbar.
- The button to split the screen into two panes; in Nautilus, you have to either press F3 or navigate to View > Extra Pane, and as you and bimsebasse have noted, they're getting rid of the extra pane, anyway.
- Much easier to permanently switch to using an editable location bar; in Nautilus, you have to change a setting in dconf-editor or use the command gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences always-use-location-entry true.
- The "Information" panel in Dolphin is very useful to me; Nautilus doesn't have one.

There are probably some other things I can't think of right now, but those are the main ones.
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Re: Nautilus stinks! Why in the heck are we still using it?

Postby mintybits on Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:12 am

I just tried out Dolphin on Mint13 Cinnamon and Pengolin.
I'm now uninstalling it.

+ pretty, nice menus and displays
- the items in the places menu can be dragged and dropped!
- when I installed it to Ubuntu the places menu was a detached, independent window with very little in the way of a border, such that when I tried to drag it to move it I accidentlaly dragged a place menu item instead and nearly moved a bunch of stuff to where I didn't want it. I had to be lightening fast to cancel the file transfer!!! I couldn't find the settings menu that would re-aggragate the detached menu.


Dolphin "out of the box" is not suitable for novices, in my brief experience of it. :?
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Re: Nautilus stinks! Why in the heck are we still using it?

Postby MALsPa on Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:11 am

I'd say you quit too easily, mintybits. The Places panel can easily be dragged back into place. The panels can also be locked: Right-click on an empty space in the panel, click on "Lock panels."
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Re: Nautilus stinks! Why in the heck are we still using it?

Postby linuxviolin on Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:54 pm

Well, as I use GNOME no more now, I don't know precisely what they have done to Nautilus but in the GNOME 2 years it was the best file manager. It was complete enough, even it could use some protocols the others could not stand. But some time ago, I have read some articles where people explained the changes made to Nautilus progressively and I remember often I hated them. If this is the case, then Nautilus is dead, or almost. By the way, it's a GNOME app and as GNOME is................... But shush........ :mrgreen: :roll:
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Re: Nautilus stinks! Why in the heck are we still using it?

Postby MALsPa on Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:09 pm

...crap?
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Re: Nautilus stinks! Why in the heck are we still using it?

Postby linuxviolin on Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:26 pm

MALsPa wrote:...crap?

:lol: It's you who say it .....! :lol: 8)
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Re: Nautilus stinks! Why in the heck are we still using it?

Postby Monsta on Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:32 am

https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo

OMG... did Clem fork Nautilus too? :shock:
(note the name - most probably a reference to Captain Nemo :))

Who knows, maybe wishes expressed in this thread will be granted someday :)
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Re: Nautilus stinks! Why in the heck are we still using it?

Postby abnvolk on Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:46 am

Monsta wrote:https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo

OMG... did Clem fork Nautilus too? :shock:
(note the name - most probably a reference to Captain Nemo :))

Who knows, maybe wishes expressed in this thread will be granted someday :)

*evil laugh* :mrgreen:
Wow, it's so amazing!
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Re: Nautilus stinks! Why in the heck are we still using it?

Postby veggen on Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:18 pm

Interestingly enough, there's a Nautilus plugin, called Captain Nemo, that turns Nautilus into 2-panel manager. Might be useful since Gnome is axing the feature in 3.5.4.
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Re: Nautilus stinks! Why in the heck are we still using it?

Postby tdockery97 on Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:53 pm

Nice to see that Clem is working on a dedicated file manager for Cinnamon. While I don't use that desktop myself at the moment, I think it's great that Mint is more and more becoming a truly independent distro.
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Re: Nautilus stinks! Why in the heck are we still using it?

Postby Monsta on Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:44 am

veggen wrote:Interestingly enough, there's a Nautilus plugin, called Captain Nemo, that turns Nautilus into 2-panel manager. Might be useful since Gnome is axing the feature in 3.5.4.

This "plugin" is almost useless in its current state. Even Sunflower is way better.
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Re: Nautilus stinks! Why in the heck are we still using it?

Postby veggen on Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:39 am

For a moment there, you got my hopes up that someone somewhere made a Nautilus extension that will keep the 2nd pane feature when Gnome kills it... but it's just another commander-style manager...
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Re: Nautilus stinks! Why in the heck are we still using it?

Postby Monsta on Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:02 am

veggen wrote:For a moment there, you got my hopes up that someone somewhere made a Nautilus extension that will keep the 2nd pane feature when Gnome kills it... but it's just another commander-style manager...

Well... yes, because I like them 8)
Sorry about your hopes... but now that Clem have created a Nautilus fork, you can ask him to keep this feature in Nemo :)
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Re: Nautilus stinks! Why in the heck are we still using it?

Postby Monsta on Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:42 am

And yet another fork of Nautilus 3.4.2 is born. This one is called Athena and is developed by Ikey Doherty. The announcement is here.

Note that he submitted his Nautilus patches into Nemo a while ago, so now there are basically two heavily patched Nautiluses (or Nautili) for two distros...
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Re: Nautilus stinks! Why in the heck are we still using it?

Postby KBD47 on Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:52 am

I admire both Ikey and Clem working so hard to fix Gnome, but I keep thinking that at the end of the day Gnome keeps borking things so badly that it may be an endless cycle of "fixing gnome".
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