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PCLINUXOS has been great

Postby beany on Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:36 pm

I've been a PCLINUXOS user for 2 solid years. It has been the only distro that worked on my laptop perfectly. I have 4 friends running it on their laptops also. My TEST#3 seems to have a few bugs but nothing horrid. My 2 desktops run it as well...no probs either. I have recently picked up a copy of MINT and will be installing it on my laptop hardrive. I've played with the live cd for awhile and it looked perfectly gorgeous. Ran very well even as a live cd. PCLINUXOS will be my KDE distro and MINT will be my Gnome choice. By the way I have never really liked UBUNTU.
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Postby tommyj12 on Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:46 pm

Fragadelic the new kernel that will make test 4 hopefully will fix the freezing issues. Do give it a try when it is released.

I love pclos and use it as my daily DE. The small dev team has been hard at work with 2007, and yes .93 hasn't been updated. I don't know if there are any plans to continue supporting it.

07 tr3 is the fastest kde distro on my box to date, so I can't agree with that.

I do like the mint beta kde.... :)

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Postby Fragadelic on Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:46 am

They need to be forthcoming with the users. They mention a disk array failure at ibiblio and I cannot find anything about that and any of the other distros that are there are fine.

Rumour has it they were dumped by ibiblio for excess traffic.

As far as speed goes, have you ever tried any slackware based kde distros? I haven't found anything faster than the upcoming Vector Linux SOHO 5.8 which is based on Slackware.

Sadly I haven't had time to try mint's kde beta yet but I plan to in the next week or so.
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Postby kenetics on Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:04 pm

I think they were right about Ibiblio, as when I checked 2 days ago they only had a few distros available for download. Today they have many more, including PCLOS (listed under Texstar).

PCLOS reached no. 2 on the 7-day DistroWatch last week, so there are a lot of people interested. They are searching for a better web host (and taking donations!).

It will be interesting comparing PCLOS and Mint, as they both will have Gnome, KDE, and XFce versions (Sam Linux is PCLOS w/ XFce). So it will be a Mandriva derivative vs. an Ubuntu derivative. I think these two will be the main distros winning over Windows converts.
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Postby Fragadelic on Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:15 pm

It appears as though they were dumped before anythign happened at ibiblio though and they are starting to admit that.

No need to sugar coat things or provide half truths. These are all good open source Linux Distributions so I don't see the benefit in trying to sugar coat and excuse.

If they outgrew ibiblio then that is actually an awesome feat and speaks volumes for their popularity.

Always tell the truth about things like this. You will gain more respect from those that count than to try to keep the fly-by-nighters that won't be around in a year anyway satisfied.
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Postby Mint-O-Meal on Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:00 am

Fragadelic wrote:It appears as though they were dumped before anythign happened at ibiblio though and they are starting to admit that.

No need to sugar coat things or provide half truths. These are all good open source Linux Distributions so I don't see the benefit in trying to sugar coat and excuse.

If they outgrew ibiblio then that is actually an awesome feat and speaks volumes for their popularity.

Always tell the truth about things like this. You will gain more respect from those that count than to try to keep the fly-by-nighters that won't be around in a year anyway satisfied.


Do you have any facts ? or do you enjoy being part of the rumor mill ?

http://www.mypclinuxos.com/index.php?op ... opic=940.0

Now why would ibiblio tell PCLOS
"Also, if the PCLinuxOS main website is down, and needed a hosting provider, why did they not ask ibiblio.org for free web hosting? We probably would not have minded..."

if they had kicked them off ?

One thing is fact: When someone made an unfair statement about Clem or Mint @PCLOS forum, the forum members jumped in with facts to backup Clem/Mint and show the poster his error.

Guess the same isn't afforded here :roll:
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Postby clivesay on Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:12 am

Fragadelic wrote:As far as speed goes, have you ever tried any slackware based kde distros? I haven't found anything faster than the upcoming Vector Linux SOHO 5.8 which is based on Slackware.


I've started using Sidux and it's the fastest KDE distro I've seen. For a KDE desktop it runs very snappy on my aging hardware and beryl is smooth. Although, based on sid, there is a very vibrant community and good devs who make running sid almost completely worry free. I like Mint a lot but Sidux is fun and a much faster desktop than say Mepis.
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Postby clem on Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:38 am

One thing is fact: When someone made an unfair statement about Clem or Mint @PCLOS forum, the forum members jumped in with facts to backup Clem/Mint and show the poster his error.


I didn't get that impression. Quite the opposite in fact i noticed a lot of people saying their two favorite distributions were Mint for Gnome and PCLinuxOS for KDE. Everywhere I've looked I've seen people backing pclinuxos (may it be here or on distrowatch) and I have great respect for this distribution.

As far as I'm concerned when I think of the perfect Gnome desktop I think at how to make it better than Fedora's.... when I think of the perfect KDE desktop I think at how to make it better than PCLinuxOS's.

In its structure and size we're a bit like PCLinuxOS and we can learn from their experience and success. In the year to come our two distributions are going to become more and more popular and this is a very positive thing.

We've got two great distros, similar challenges and two passionate communities, let's appreciate that.

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Postby Fragadelic on Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:14 am

Mint-O-Meal wrote:
Fragadelic wrote:It appears as though they were dumped before anythign happened at ibiblio though and they are starting to admit that.

No need to sugar coat things or provide half truths. These are all good open source Linux Distributions so I don't see the benefit in trying to sugar coat and excuse.

If they outgrew ibiblio then that is actually an awesome feat and speaks volumes for their popularity.

Always tell the truth about things like this. You will gain more respect from those that count than to try to keep the fly-by-nighters that won't be around in a year anyway satisfied.


Do you have any facts ? or do you enjoy being part of the rumor mill ?

http://www.mypclinuxos.com/index.php?op ... opic=940.0

Now why would ibiblio tell PCLOS
"Also, if the PCLinuxOS main website is down, and needed a hosting provider, why did they not ask ibiblio.org for free web hosting? We probably would not have minded..."

if they had kicked them off ?

One thing is fact: When someone made an unfair statement about Clem or Mint @PCLOS forum, the forum members jumped in with facts to backup Clem/Mint and show the poster his error.

Guess the same isn't afforded here :roll:


Oh brother :roll:

It was one of the PCLinuxOS devs that said that.

I am entitled to my opinion just like everyone else is entitled to theirs. When you start a sentence with "It appears...", that in no ways means the statement is fact but rather an opinion.

Lets leave this alone. I've helped the PCLinuxOS distro on the dev side - have you?
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Postby Mint-O-Meal on Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:05 pm

Fragadelic wrote:I've helped the PCLinuxOS distro on the dev side - have you?

Yes I have, also on the $$ side :wink:

Lets leave this alone.


agreed 8)
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Postby donlinux on Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:50 pm

I used PCLOS Jr., BigDaddy and have played with 2007. I'm using mint because I'm a gnome fan. I had zero problems with any hardware being recognized, speed or updates and I was not a paying member. I am now and am anxiously awaiting the PCLOS Gnome version. Until such time, I am a Bianca user, but if the Gnome version of PCLOS is as good as the KDE......
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Postby bigbearomaha on Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:12 pm

PCLOS is chugging along very well folks.

As a distro, they are making it the best it can be.

In regards to the forum and repos, well, that's the IT world for ya. being a community and volunteer distro, funds for "professional" or commercial services are limited if existent at all.


It is not advisable to link the forum and the distro as one and the same.

PCLOS the distro is the same strong distro it always has been and will continue to be.

PCLOS the site, is experiencing growing pains.

I agree with Clem.

Both PCLOS and Mint are fantastic distros and each has their own unique personality. giving the end user that much more choice in putting together the best system for their needs and purposes.

I have mentioned it before, but I don't see the as one is a "Gnome" distro, the other a KDE distro, for both distros have both wm's offered.

Instead, I see them as one is a great .deb distro the other a great .rpm distro.


I have seen people in other forums, ( yes pclos also) "diss" the buntus because of the sudo issue.

but they are not seeing the full issue.

they don't stop to think that sudo is one method of accessing privileges and admin resources, just as logging in as Root does the same.


sudo is available on almost all distros now, or easily installed.

logging in as root is a simple change in the giving root a password and enabling gdm to allow root to log into it.

bam, done, simple. buntus can be made "just like" all the others and all the others can be just like the buntu's.

it's just a matter of preference.

more of the great freedom of choice we all appreciate so much in Linux.
We need not argue about which is best, I suspect they are equal. only from different sides of the river.

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Postby justo on Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:03 pm

I like PC Linux TR3.I have loaded it on several computers with no problems.I also loaded it on my Toshiba Satellite M55 laptop.It was the only one that went right up and loaded beside XP without a problem and everything worked including my Atheros wireless card. I am on Mint Bianca Gnome on this PC.I have Mint KDE loaded with PC Linux TR3 on another here. I am satisfied with all of those.
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Postby Ignanik on Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:46 am

Ok ... I dont get it ... I`m both a PCLOS and a mint user ... and have them both ... Both distros are great . And trust me , For me using anything that Is deb based has never been a nice experience until linux mint.

Then again Both mandriva and mandrake were not a nice experience ( rpm hell and the lack of support for non paying costumers )

And yes most non buntu users bash at sudo ...
But it just a question of habit :)

But in the end run, All linux distros have and have had their short comings . And that`s were WE come in .
AND by WE I`m thinking of the communities that stand by their distros and do their best to make them better Hey thats what makes linux great . . Imagine what would have happened if Linus Torvall didnt have friends ready for beta testing the kernel ...

Remember we are here because we value our freedom and Right to Chose and I think that we all share the idea that all software should be free for non commercial use.

So any distro ... small , big , ugly or nice is great in my book .

Mint and PClinuxOS are my favorites because they are both made on more or less the same ideas and have great communities . And they both work well :)

BTW PCLOS final is a lot better than the TR-s, I had 3d and gl ( had none of both that is ) problems on all the TR-s but have had none with the final
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Postby kenetics on Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:10 pm

I keep PCLOS and Mint on my computer also, as I like to play around with KDE and Gnome. BTW, I'm beginning to like Gnome more and more...

Remember we are here because we value our freedom and Right to Chose and I think that we all share the idea that all software should be free for non commercial use.


Yes, why should one have to pay for an operating system? I can see paying for support if you need it, but $400 so one can actually use their computer? MS should give their OS away, their real money maker is MS Office. Sales of Office 2007 is far outpacing Vista, per Amazon sales rankings. And don't get me started as to why DRM is part of a computer operating system...
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Postby exploder on Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:25 pm

If Microsoft had it's way everything would be web based and people would pay for subscriptions to use their software. There would be never ending fees generating revenue for Microsoft!

No matter what Linux distribution you use you are helping every computer user out there. Just think about it! Aren't you glad you use Linux!
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Postby Ignanik on Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:29 pm

Guys check this out ... :)

http://mag.mypclinuxos.com/html/Issues/200706/page06.html

Remember How i said : " Mint and PClinuxOS are my favorites because they are both made on more or less the same ideas and have great communities "

Well its obvious that PCLOS users like MINT and the other way around , so .

I think that the guy how wrote the Article has read my post here :)

/me looks at bigbearomaha and winks :)
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Postby hugh on Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:11 pm

Actually it was Bigbear's recommendation that brought me here, I still use PCLOS but I'm certainly not dumping Mint, I love them both, and they both work perfectly with my hardware.

Cheers,

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Postby screamin_jesus on Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:11 pm

I just came from PCLOS to mint (Only Because of my printer, when I installed the driver is PCLOS synaptic would not let me do anything until I removed it because it said it was broken. It works perfectly on mint/ubuntu) PCLOS was a great distro, it was incredibly fast, and had a good KDE implementation. What I like better about it than ununtu/Mint is it has EXCELLENT hardware detection. The only distro I can get 1440x900 on without nvidia-settings or xorg.conf. Mint shines in it's GUI and artwork, it is also seemingly faser than ununtu, both mint and PCLOS have most multimedia stuff installed. Mint's advantage is it's access to unbuntu repos. The PCLOS repos are quite small. I've used like 5 distros in the past month (Ubuntu, OpenSuSE, Fedora 7, PCLOS, Mint; My poor secondary drive, it's like 3 years old too)
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Postby bigbearomaha on Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:56 pm

:D

They say that great minds think alike.


Although, grasshopper, I've been plugging Mint for quite awhile now.

( although Clem still won't do an interview for Polar Bears and Penugins )

Mint is THE best, hands down, debian/buntu based distro I have ever seen or used.

Are there issues? of course, name one distro that doesn't. just one.

can't do it can you?

so, If we accept that all distros are going to have some things to keep working through, then let's support those that keep the sleeves rolled up and the people are real.

They bring more than just technical excellence to the distro, they bring personality.

No one does it better than the one-two combo of Mint and PCLOS


( Except maybe CentOS ) (j/k, but I like CentOS alot also for enterprise stuff )

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