The unofficial LMDE XFCE - startup

[zerozero]

Gene that is a big N
if you install it with

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--no-install-recommends

will it be functional (well, as much as alacarte can be nowadays )

[GeneC]

'zz'...
My lightweight lmce/xfce was about to go down the tubes...

That is better...

gene@lmde-xfce:~$ apt install --no-install-recommends alacarte
[sudo] password for gene:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Recommended packages:
gnome-panel
The following NEW packages will be installed:
alacarte
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 105 kB of archives.
After this operation, 293 kB of additional disk space will be used.

Gotta put that command in my 'clicompanion' too damn old to actually remember it...

Thanks..

[jjaythomas]

If any one interested...
preparing for a RC

Installed remastersys (testing wheezy one) will install make a remaster (tho haven't tried installing from live). Have used the Ubuntu version for couple years (on Xubuntu) have also used this testing one on other Debians, so have no reason think won't.

Rematersys a easy backup as alternative to a 'Virtualbox image or clonezilla' and moveable between computers.

http://www.remastersys.com/forums/index.php?topic=2511.0

J.Jay

[GeneC]

Thanks for the link 'JJ'. I gotta look into that.....

[zerozero]

That is better...

but the question is does it worky?
(i'm stuck in kde for a few more hours <ohh the pain > and can't reboot)

[GeneC]

but the question is does it worky?
...

Heck, you want it to WORK too?
Well.... Not realy. It looks pretty, but doesn't keep the changes.

I applied Schoelje's fixes..

It seems that Alacarte is looking for gnome-applications-menu hard-coded
As symlink fixes the problem:

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cd $HOME/.config/menus
ln -s xfce-applications.menu gnome-applications.menu

And

Fix Alacarte:

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sed -i -e '/gnome-desktop-item-edit/ s/gnome/exo/' /usr/share/alacarte/Alacarte/MainWindow.py
sed -i -e '/gnome-/ s/gnome/xfce/' /usr/share/alacarte/Alacarte/MenuEditor.py

Now I open a pretty 'alacarte', and the 'edit laucher' gui opens and takes text, but does not save...

Nothing unusual with terminal output (the usual Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:), but that is it?

[zerozero]

Heck, you want it to WORK too?

well, if it's not ask too much (i see it is )

[GeneC]

I spoke too quickly....

It does work. (log out/in ?).

Just created an "alacarte" entry in "OTHER" and it shows up in xfce menu and (MInt Menu -I had to install it... )



New menu entry......

[dritzominous]

It's so weird, but it magically works.

The source is quite lengthy, and there's quite a bit of inheritance and almost NO comments/docs. Not exactly yummy.

As for the Users and Groups manager, as someone mentioned, we could look at MATE's implementation. But if it doesn't work, I think there should be a fork.
Remember that if you fork, I will spoon (you). jk

And xfce-settings-manager, or whatever it's called. Do you think that the WM and Appearance settings forms should combine functionality in some way? Does anyone have an opinion on this?

I know it's a monster project, but I think that it might be more practical. Just thinking of ways to make Xfce better... After all, it doesn't have that many devs.

(Sorry for my absence and lack of participation, but school and work are currently sucking the life out of me.)

[GeneC]

Welcome back, Dritz...

LIFE is sucking the life out of ME..

[dritzominous]

LIFE is sucking the life out of ME..

I should quote you for that someday. Oh wait...

[zerozero]

LIFE is sucking the life out of ME..

[jjaythomas]

Remastersys clone work (on install from remaster now)

Now getting uptight waiting on 64Bit RC (Hopefully)

J.Jay

[jjaythomas]

see using the new weather plugin...NICE

I think that's the plugin I wanted on mint13 but the repo to the PPA version of Xfce were mismatched (others also)

J.Jay

[Schoelje]

Install Alacarte:

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apt-get install --no-install-recommends alacarte
sed -i -e '/gnome-desktop-item-edit/ s/gnome/exo/' /usr/share/alacarte/Alacarte/MainWindow.py
sed -i -e '/gnome-/ s/gnome/xfce/' /usr/share/alacarte/Alacarte/MenuEditor.py

[Schoelje]

To make Alacarte a bit more future-proof, I added Xfce support and created a pull request in github:
https://github.com/GNOME/alacarte/pulls

Hopefully the maintainers will include the patch so that in future we won't have these problems.

[Schoelje]

:lol: Gene that is a big N
if you install it with

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--no-install-recommends

will it be functional (well, as much as alacarte can be nowadays )

I asked the maintainers to drop the "Recommends: gnome-panel" in their deb file.
That should fix the pull in of unnecessary dependencies.

[EDIT]
You can download the patched deb here: http://schoelje.nl/lmdexfce/packages/alacarte_3.5.4-1_all.deb

[zerozero]

Install Alacarte:

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apt-get install --no-install-recommends alacarte
sed -i -e '/gnome-desktop-item-edit/ s/gnome/exo/' /usr/share/alacarte/Alacarte/MainWindow.py
sed -i -e '/gnome-/ s/gnome/xfce/' /usr/share/alacarte/Alacarte/MenuEditor.py

just to be sure: in my install (beta1) alacarte is pre-installed (can give the logs later but as far as i can remember is an installation from dec 4th)

[Schoelje]

just to be sure: in my install (beta1) alacarte is pre-installed (can give the logs later but as far as i can remember is an installation from dec 4th)

Afirmative!

[zerozero]

now that all the major issues are solved (as far as i can see >> apart from that odd networks icon rendering problem) i have a more general concern:

all the xfce4.10 are local packages (from siduction), when debian migrates 4.10 into testing (not before next spring for sure) all the replaces will be smooth or is there changes in the siduction packages version number that might cause breakages?