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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby Schoelje on Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:19 am

zerozero wrote:now that all the major issues are solved (as far as i can see >> apart from that odd networks icon rendering problem) i have a more general concern:

all the xfce4.10 are local packages (from siduction), when debian migrates 4.10 into testing (not before next spring for sure) all the replaces will be smooth or is there changes in the siduction packages version number that might cause breakages?


I think that's a rhetorical question :)
There's no way to be sure if the upgrade will or won't cause problems.
It was a choice: go with siductions 4.10 or keep the older version from the Debian repositories.
There's another solution: get my own repositories, but that'll be a bit more complicated (where to host, what's it going to cost, lack of experience, time, etc).
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby zerozero on Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:00 pm

Schoelje wrote:I think that's a rhetorical question :)
yep that's me :lol:
Schoelje wrote:There's no way to be sure if the upgrade will or won't cause problems
actually there is (kinda of: let's downgrade to the version on testing, if that path goes ok we can assume with better certainty that the upgrade is also safe)

big red warning: don't do this in a production machine, apt doesn't support downgrades and the risks are far too high
1- we start with (as you can see there's a lot of 4.10.x pkgs in there)
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zerozero@un-xfce-b1:~$ dpkg -l | grep xfce
ii  gtk2-engines-xfce                      3.0.1-1                              i386         GTK+-2.0 theme engine for Xfce
ii  libxfce4ui-1-0                         4.10.0-1                             i386         widget library for Xfce
ii  libxfce4ui-utils                       4.10.0-1                             i386         Utility files for libxfce4ui
ii  libxfce4util-bin                       4.10.0-2                             i386         tools for libxfce4util
ii  libxfce4util-common                    4.10.0-2                             all          common files for libxfce4util
ii  libxfce4util4                          4.8.2-1                              i386         Utility functions library for Xfce4
ii  libxfce4util6                          4.10.0-2                             i386         Utility functions library for Xfce4
ii  libxfcegui4-4                          4.10.0-1                             i386         Basic GUI C functions for Xfce4
ii  lmdexfce-artwork                       1.0.0                                all          Default artwork for Linux Mint
ii  lmdexfce-lightdm-adjustments           1.0.0                                all          Adjust settings and background for lightdm
ii  lmdexfce-system-adjustments            1.0.0                                all          Debian adjustments specific to LMDE Xfce.
ii  mint-info-debian-xfce                  2012.09.12                           i386         Necessary information about the Linux Mint release and edition.
ii  plymouth-themes-lmdexfce               1.5.0                                all          Graphical Boot Animation and Logger (LMDE Xfce theme)
ii  xfce-keyboard-shortcuts                4.10.0-1                             all          xfce keyboard shortcuts configuration
ii  xfce4                                  4.10.0                               all          Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment
ii  xfce4-appfinder                        4.10.0-1                             i386         Application finder for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment
ii  xfce4-battery-plugin                   1.0.5-1.2                            i386         battery monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-cellmodem-plugin                 0.0.5-3.1                            i386         cellular modem plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-clipman                          2:1.2.3-1.2                          i386         clipboard history utility
ii  xfce4-clipman-plugin                   2:1.2.3-1.2                          i386         clipboard history plugin for Xfce panel
ii  xfce4-cpufreq-plugin                   1.0.0-4.1                            i386         cpufreq information plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-cpugraph-plugin                  1.0.3-1.1                            i386         CPU load graph plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-datetime-plugin                  0.6.1-3.1                            i386         date and time plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-dict                             0.6.0-5.1                            i386         Dictionary plugin for Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-diskperf-plugin                  2.5.4-1.1                            i386         disk performance display plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-fsguard-plugin                   1.0.1-1.1                            i386         filesystem monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-genmon-plugin                    3.4.0-1.1                            i386         Generic Monitor for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-hdaps                            0.0.9-1.1                            i386         plugin to indicate the status of HDAPS for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-indicator-plugin                 0.5.0-1.1                            i386         plugin to display information from applications in the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-linelight-plugin                 0.1.7-2.1                            i386         Search plugin for Xfce panel
ii  xfce4-mailwatch-plugin                 1.1.0-5.1                            i386         mail watcher plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-messenger-plugin                 0.1.0-5.1                            i386         Dbus messages plugin for xfce4-panel
ii  xfce4-mixer                            4.10.0-1                             i386         Xfce mixer application
ii  xfce4-mount-plugin                     0.6.4-1.1                            i386         mount plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-mpc-plugin                       0.4.4-1.1                            i386         Xfce panel plugin which serves as client for MPD music player
ii  xfce4-netload-plugin                   1.1.0-1.1                            i386         network load monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-notes                            1.7.7-2.1                            i386         Notes application for the Xfce4 desktop
ii  xfce4-notes-plugin                     1.7.7-2.1                            i386         Notes plugin for the Xfce4 desktop
ii  xfce4-notifyd                          0.2.2-2                              i386         simple, visually-appealing notification daemon for Xfce
ii  xfce4-panel                            4.10.0-1.1                           i386         panel for Xfce4 desktop environment
ii  xfce4-places-plugin                    1.3.0-1.1                            i386         quick access to folders, documents and removable media
ii  xfce4-power-manager                    1.2.0-1                              i386         power manager for Xfce desktop
ii  xfce4-power-manager-data               1.2.0-1                              all          power manager for Xfce desktop, arch-indep files
ii  xfce4-power-manager-plugins            1.2.0-1                              i386         power manager plugins for Xfce panel
ii  xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin             1.9.4-9.1                            i386         rapid launcher plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-radio-plugin                     0.5.1-1.1                            i386         v4l radio control plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-screenshooter                    1.8.1-1+b1                           i386         screenshots utility for Xfce
ii  xfce4-sensors-plugin                   1.2.5-1.1                            i386         hardware sensors plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-session                          4.10.0-2                             i386         Xfce4 Session Manager
ii  xfce4-settings                         4.10.0-1                             i386         graphical application for managing Xfce settings
ii  xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin             0.4.4-1.1                            i386         search the web via the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-systemload-plugin                1.1.1-1.1                            i386         system load monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-taskmanager                      1.0.0-2                              i386         process manager for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment
ii  xfce4-terminal                         0.4.8-1+b1                           i386         Xfce terminal emulator
ii  xfce4-timer-plugin                     0.6.3-1.1                            i386         timer plugin for Xfce panel
ii  xfce4-verve-plugin                     1.0.0-1.1                            i386         Verve (command line) plugin for Xfce panel
ii  xfce4-volumed                          0.1.13-3                             i386         volume keys daemon
ii  xfce4-wavelan-plugin                   0.5.11-1.1                           i386         wavelan status plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-weather-plugin                   0.8.2-1.2                            i386         weather information plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-wmdock-plugin                    0.3.4-1.1                            i386         Compatibility layer for running WindowMaker dockapps on Xfce
ii  xfce4-xkb-plugin                       0.5.4.3-1.1                          i386         xkb layout switch plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfdesktop4                             4.10.0-2                             i386         xfce desktop background, icons and root menu manager
ii  xfdesktop4-data                        4.10.0-2                             all          xfce desktop background, icons and root menu (common files)


2- we have to instruct apt to downgrade certain pkgs (apt-pinning) so we add a new rule to /etc/apt/preferences
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Package: xfce*
Pin: release o=Debian
Pin-Priority: 1001

it's not perfect as we'll see further down but serves for now :lol:

3- i will be using a dry-run switch
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apt update

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sudo apt-get -s dist-upgrade
(this will actually downgrade :shock: the pkgs)
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zerozero@un-xfce-b1:~$ sudo apt-get -s dist-upgrade
[sudo] password for zerozero:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libxfce4ui-utils orage xfce4
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  xfce4-utils xinput
The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
  xfce-keyboard-shortcuts xfce4-appfinder xfce4-battery-plugin xfce4-cellmodem-plugin xfce4-clipman xfce4-clipman-plugin xfce4-cpufreq-plugin
  xfce4-cpugraph-plugin xfce4-datetime-plugin xfce4-dict xfce4-diskperf-plugin xfce4-fsguard-plugin xfce4-genmon-plugin xfce4-hdaps xfce4-indicator-plugin
  xfce4-linelight-plugin xfce4-mailwatch-plugin xfce4-messenger-plugin xfce4-mixer xfce4-mount-plugin xfce4-mpc-plugin xfce4-netload-plugin xfce4-notes
  xfce4-notes-plugin xfce4-panel xfce4-places-plugin xfce4-power-manager xfce4-power-manager-data xfce4-power-manager-plugins xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin
  xfce4-radio-plugin xfce4-sensors-plugin xfce4-session xfce4-settings xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-timer-plugin
  xfce4-verve-plugin xfce4-wavelan-plugin xfce4-weather-plugin xfce4-wmdock-plugin xfce4-xkb-plugin
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 42 downgraded, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded.


4- (that rule in point 2 is too generic and might not downgrade all the pkgs) if i was doing a real downgrade i would check again with
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dpkg -l | grep xfce
to see if some pkg wasn't downgraded automatically (can happen due to dependencies) and with
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sudo apt-get -s install xfce4-session
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  xfce4-appfinder xfce4-battery-plugin xfce4-cellmodem-plugin
  xfce4-clipman-plugin xfce4-cpufreq-plugin xfce4-cpugraph-plugin
  xfce4-datetime-plugin xfce4-dict xfce4-diskperf-plugin xfce4-fsguard-plugin
  xfce4-genmon-plugin xfce4-hdaps xfce4-indicator-plugin
  xfce4-linelight-plugin xfce4-mailwatch-plugin xfce4-messenger-plugin
  xfce4-mixer xfce4-mount-plugin xfce4-mpc-plugin xfce4-netload-plugin
  xfce4-notes-plugin xfce4-panel xfce4-places-plugin
  xfce4-power-manager-plugins xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin xfce4-radio-plugin
  xfce4-sensors-plugin xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin xfce4-systemload-plugin
  xfce4-timer-plugin xfce4-utils xfce4-verve-plugin xfce4-wavelan-plugin
  xfce4-weather-plugin xfce4-wmdock-plugin xfce4-xkb-plugin xinput
Suggested packages:
  mpd xsensors fortunes-mod
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libxfce4ui-utils orage xfce4
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  xfce4-utils xinput
The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
  xfce4-appfinder xfce4-battery-plugin xfce4-cellmodem-plugin
  xfce4-clipman-plugin xfce4-cpufreq-plugin xfce4-cpugraph-plugin
  xfce4-datetime-plugin xfce4-dict xfce4-diskperf-plugin xfce4-fsguard-plugin
  xfce4-genmon-plugin xfce4-hdaps xfce4-indicator-plugin
  xfce4-linelight-plugin xfce4-mailwatch-plugin xfce4-messenger-plugin
  xfce4-mixer xfce4-mount-plugin xfce4-mpc-plugin xfce4-netload-plugin
  xfce4-notes-plugin xfce4-panel xfce4-places-plugin
  xfce4-power-manager-plugins xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin xfce4-radio-plugin
  xfce4-sensors-plugin xfce4-session xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin
  xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-timer-plugin xfce4-verve-plugin
  xfce4-wavelan-plugin xfce4-weather-plugin xfce4-wmdock-plugin
  xfce4-xkb-plugin
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 36 downgraded, 3 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby Schoelje on Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:38 pm

Eh, that's nice...but, what does that say about the risk of an upgrade when it comes?
Is it absolutely certain, rather certain, semi-certain, could be either way, semi-uncertain, almost uncertain or no way it's going to crash?
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby GeneC on Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:40 pm

zerozero wrote:now that all the major issues are solved (as far as i can see >> apart from that odd networks icon rendering problem) i have a more general concern:

all the xfce4.10 are local packages (from siduction), when debian migrates 4.10 into testing (not before next spring for sure) all the replaces will be smooth or is there changes in the siduction packages version number that might cause breakages?


Good question.
This may be of help.
I originally updated LMDE/XFCE/SID (201204.iso) From XFCE 4.8 in Debian SID to 4.10 in Debian Experimental. It was not until some time after than I added the Siduction xfcenext repo. At that time I do not remember anything new being updated, but I was able to add some missing xfce panel apps that were not available in Debian Experimental. I cant check logs as that other computer is down until I get a new power supply... :cry:

It appears that Siduction just used the Debian Experimental packages in their own XFCE NEXT repo.
(I haven't checked them, as of yet) :roll:

Debian Experimental (XFCE packages)
http://packages.debian.org/search?suite ... words=xfce

Sidcution xfcenext
http://packages.siduction.org/?Reposito ... enext_i386
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby zerozero on Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:13 pm

Schoelje wrote:but, what does that say about the risk of an upgrade when it comes?

ahah as far as i can see it should be safe; apt is clumsy with downgrades but we can see above that it goes fairly well, so we can expect that the upgrade will too specially as Gene points out most of the pkgs are "just" debian experimental pkgs backported. there's no weird version number changes in those pkgs (the kind of thing that could make apt go nuts and nuke the upgrade path)
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby GeneC on Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:46 pm

Schoelje wrote:
zerozero wrote:now that all the major issues are solved (as far as i can see >> apart from that odd networks icon rendering problem) i have a more general concern:

all the xfce4.10 are local packages (from siduction), when debian migrates 4.10 into testing (not before next spring for sure) all the replaces will be smooth or is there changes in the siduction packages version number that might cause breakages?


I think that's a rhetorical question :)
There's no way to be sure if the upgrade will or won't cause problems.
It was a choice: go with siductions 4.10 or keep the older version from the Debian repositories.
There's another solution: get my own repositories, but that'll be a bit more complicated (where to host, what's it going to cost, lack of experience, time, etc).


Can you see any issues with just adding the Siduction xfcenext repo to sources list?
It just contains xfce specific packages..

(Actually I did that already.... :lol: )

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gene@lmde-xfce:~$ inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb http://linux-mint.froonix.org/ debian main upstream import backport romeo
           deb http://mirror.metrocast.net/linuxmint-debian/latest testing main contrib non-free #"Mint Latest Testing"
           deb http://mirror.metrocast.net/linuxmint-debian/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free #"Mint Latest Testing-Security"
           deb http://mirror.metrocast.net/linuxmint-debian/latest/multimedia testing main non-free #"Mint Latest Testing-Multimedia"
           deb http://packages.siduction.org/xfcenext unstable main #"Siduction-XFCEnext"
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby jjaythomas on Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:50 pm

I'm not knowledgeable on this stuff BUT

if their local can you give them a bogus version number(?) then when the 4.10 actually hits testing they don't auto upgrade with Upack, and can test then and upgrade (or not) or someone write (not me :oops: ) a package (meta) that will?

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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby Schoelje on Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:04 pm

Good discussion.
There will be pros and cons, as for most decisions.
As for now, I'll leave it as-is with only LM repositories.

Now, for something completely different: RC1 is out!

http://schoelje.nl/lmdexfce/lmdexfce64_up6rc1_201301.iso
741f9043365c1b9f1e839e1ce7f79f77
936MB

http://schoelje.nl/lmdexfce/lmdexfce32_up6rc1_201301.iso
82d42a06d4a570f09c2922a48bc7b61f
899MB
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby GeneC on Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:08 pm

WOW! Fast work...

Downloading. Thanks.. :D

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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby GeneC on Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:16 pm

RC installed, no problems with installation.

Very first impression good, but still using Oxygen theme and KDE cursors? If you really want to Mint-ify it what about Mint-X and DMZ cursors? I added them and they work fine. Again icons only changed after logout/in... :wink:

Had to adjust font setting per previous post, to look good. (which I cant locate at the moment..)

PAE kernel install went fine. No problems. I forgot to choose the speediest repo, and it took a while...
Perhaps putting a note about that in Welcome Screen?

Going to clone, and install Nvidia.

Nice work.
GeneC

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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby GeneC on Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:04 pm

Alacate works.
Swap file was recognized (dual boot - was not recognized on Alpha)

One problem.
After install of PAE ...DDM does not recognize Nvidia.

EDIT: Disregard above. I forgot to refresh the repos, after running
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mint-choose-debian-mirror

Thanks, 'zz'.. :)

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09-01-2013 16:58:52 main                          INFO      Write debug information to file: /home/gene/ddm.log
09-01-2013 16:58:52 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: cat /proc/version
09-01-2013 16:58:52 main                          INFO      Machine info: Linux version 3.2.0-4-686-pae (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Debian 4.6.3-12) ) #1 SMP Debian 3.2.32-1
09-01-2013 16:58:52 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy ddm | grep Installed
09-01-2013 16:58:52 main                          INFO      DDM version: 0.5.1
09-01-2013 16:58:52 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: dpkg -s apt-listbugs | grep Status
09-01-2013 16:58:52 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: cat /proc/version
09-01-2013 16:58:52 main                          DEBUG     Startup command: gksu --message "<b>Please enter your password</b>" python /usr/lib/ddm/ddm.py :d :l /home/gene/ddm.log
09-01-2013 16:58:53 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
09-01-2013 16:58:53 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy ddm | grep Installed
09-01-2013 16:58:54 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: cat /proc/version
09-01-2013 16:58:54 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: cat /etc/*-release | grep DISTRIB_RELEASE
09-01-2013 16:58:54 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: uname -r
09-01-2013 16:58:54 execcmd.run                   INFO      3.2.0-4-686-pae
09-01-2013 16:58:54 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: aptitude search linux-headers
09-01-2013 16:58:54 XorgConf.getUsedModule        INFO      Used graphics driver: nouveau
09-01-2013 16:58:54 broadcom.getUsedDriver        INFO      Used wireless driver: None
09-01-2013 16:58:54 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: dpkg -s linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae | grep Status
09-01-2013 16:58:54 pae.getInstalledPaePackage    INFO      Installed PAE: linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae
09-01-2013 16:58:54 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: dpkg -S nouveau_drv
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache rdepends xserver-xorg-video-nouveau | grep "^ "
09-01-2013 16:58:56 ddm.main                      DEBUG     Used drivers: [['graphics', 'nouveau'], ['kernel', 'linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae']]
09-01-2013 16:58:56 ddm.main                      INFO      Checking your hardware...
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: uname -r
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   INFO      3.2.0-4-686-pae
09-01-2013 16:58:56 drivers.DriverGet             DEBUG     Initialize DriverGet
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: lspci -nn | grep VGA
09-01-2013 16:58:56 ddm.getHardwareInfo           DEBUG     Check every 5 miliseconds if thread is still active
09-01-2013 16:58:56 drivers.DriverGet             DEBUG     Initialize DriverGet
09-01-2013 16:58:56 ddm.getHardwareInfo           DEBUG     Check every 5 miliseconds if thread is still active
09-01-2013 16:58:56 drivers.DriverGet             DEBUG     Initialize DriverGet
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: lspci -nn | grep VGA
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: lspci -nn | grep VGA
09-01-2013 16:58:56 ddm.getHardwareInfo           DEBUG     Check every 5 miliseconds if thread is still active
09-01-2013 16:58:56 drivers.DriverGet             DEBUG     Initialize DriverGet
09-01-2013 16:58:56 ddm.getHardwareInfo           DEBUG     Check every 5 miliseconds if thread is still active
09-01-2013 16:58:56 drivers.DriverGet             DEBUG     Initialize DriverGet
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: lspci -nn | grep VGA
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: lspci | grep Broadcom
09-01-2013 16:58:56 ddm.getHardwareInfo           DEBUG     Check every 5 miliseconds if thread is still active
09-01-2013 16:58:56 drivers.DriverGet             DEBUG     Initialize DriverGet
09-01-2013 16:58:56 ddm.getHardwareInfo           DEBUG     Check every 5 miliseconds if thread is still active
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: cat /etc/*-release | grep DISTRIB_RELEASE
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy nvidia-detect | grep Installed
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   INFO      02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01)
09-01-2013 16:58:56 broadcom.setCurrentChipInfo   INFO      Broadcom found: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01)
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: uname -r
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: lspci -n -d 14e4:
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   INFO      3.2.0-4-686-pae
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: dpkg -s nvidia-detect | grep Status
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: aptitude search linux-headers
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   INFO      02:00.0 0200: 14e4:1677 (rev 01)
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: nvidia-detect | grep nvidia- | tr -d ' '
09-01-2013 16:58:56 broadcom.setCurrentChipInfo   DEBUG     Broadcom chip set found: 1677
09-01-2013 16:58:56 pae.getPae                    DEBUG     Distribution: debian 1.0
09-01-2013 16:58:56 broadcom.setCurrentChipInfo   WARNING   Broadcom chipset not supported or ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01)
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: uname -m
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   INFO      nvidia-glx
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   INFO      i686
09-01-2013 16:58:56 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: dpkg -s linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae | grep Status
09-01-2013 16:58:57 drivers.getPackageStatus      WARNING   Package not found: nvidia-glx
09-01-2013 16:58:57 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx | grep Candidate
09-01-2013 16:58:57 pae.getInstalledPaePackage    INFO      Installed PAE: linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae
09-01-2013 16:58:57 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae | grep Installed
09-01-2013 16:58:57 pae.getPae                    INFO      Multi-core already installed: linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae
09-01-2013 16:58:57 nvidia.getNvidia              WARNING   Driver not installable: nvidia-glx
09-01-2013 16:58:57 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
09-01-2013 16:58:57 drivers.getPackageStatus      DEBUG     Package is installed: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
09-01-2013 16:58:57 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-nouveau | grep Candidate
09-01-2013 16:58:57 nvidia.getNvidia              INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (installed)
09-01-2013 16:58:57 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
09-01-2013 16:58:57 drivers.getPackageStatus      DEBUG     Package is installed: xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
09-01-2013 16:58:57 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev | grep Candidate
09-01-2013 16:58:57 nvidia.getNvidia              INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-fbdev (installed)
09-01-2013 16:58:57 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-vesa
09-01-2013 16:58:58 drivers.getPackageStatus      DEBUG     Package is installed: xserver-xorg-video-vesa
09-01-2013 16:58:58 execcmd.run                   DEBUG     Command to execute: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-vesa | grep Candidate
09-01-2013 16:58:58 nvidia.getNvidia              INFO      Nvidia driver found: xserver-xorg-video-vesa (installed)
09-01-2013 16:58:58 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Check loaded driver / available driver: nouveau /
09-01-2013 16:58:58 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Check loaded driver / available driver: linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae /
09-01-2013 16:58:58 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Manufacturer image path: /usr/share/ddm/broadcom.png
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create list store eval string: gtk.ListStore(bool, str, str, str, str, int, int)
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Activate
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Driver
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Version
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Description
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): hwCode
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column names: ['Activate', 'Driver', 'Version', 'Description', 'hwCode']
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name: skip first item
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Add data to list store: liststore.append([False, "", "", "Chipset not supported", "broadcom", 400, 10000])
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Last visible column nr: 3
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Activate", gtk.CellRendererToggle(), active=0)
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Check box found: add toggle function
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Activate
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Driver", gtk.CellRendererText(), text=1, weight=5, size=6)
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Driver
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Version", gtk.CellRendererText(), text=2, weight=5, size=6)
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Version
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Description", gtk.CellRendererText(), text=3, weight=5, size=6)
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Last column fills treeview: 3
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Description
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Hide column nr: 4
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Add Liststore to Treeview
09-01-2013 16:58:58 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Check loaded driver / available driver: nouveau /
09-01-2013 16:58:58 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Check loaded driver / available driver: linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae /
09-01-2013 16:58:58 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Manufacturer image path: /usr/share/ddm/broadcom.png
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Clear existing list store
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Activate
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Driver
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Version
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Description
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): hwCode
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column names: ['Activate', 'Driver', 'Version', 'Description', 'hwCode']
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name: skip first item
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Add data to list store: liststore.append([False, "", "", "Chipset not supported", "broadcom", 400, 10000])
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Last visible column nr: 3
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Activate", gtk.CellRendererToggle(), active=0)
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Check box found: add toggle function
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Activate
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Driver", gtk.CellRendererText(), text=1, weight=5, size=6)
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Driver
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Version", gtk.CellRendererText(), text=2, weight=5, size=6)
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Version
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Description", gtk.CellRendererText(), text=3, weight=5, size=6)
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Last column fills treeview: 3
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Description
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Hide column nr: 4
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Add Liststore to Treeview
09-01-2013 16:58:58 XorgConf.getManufacturerModulesDEBUG     Modules for nvidia: ['nvidia', 'nouveau', 'fbdev', 'vesa']
09-01-2013 16:58:58 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Check loaded driver / available driver: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau / xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
09-01-2013 16:58:58 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Select current driver in list: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
09-01-2013 16:58:58 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Manufacturer image path: /usr/share/ddm/nvidia.png
09-01-2013 16:58:58 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Check loaded driver / available driver: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau / xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
09-01-2013 16:58:58 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Check loaded driver / available driver: linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae / xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
09-01-2013 16:58:58 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Check loaded driver / available driver: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau / xserver-xorg-video-vesa
09-01-2013 16:58:58 ddm.loadDriverSection         DEBUG     Check loaded driver / available driver: linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae / xserver-xorg-video-vesa
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Clear existing list store
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Activate
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Driver
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Version
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): Description
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name (multi-column list): hwCode
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column names: ['Activate', 'Driver', 'Version', 'Description', 'hwCode']
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     First item is column name: skip first item
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Add data to list store: liststore.append([True, "xserver-xorg-video-nouveau", "1:1.0.1", "Nouveau display driver (recommended)", "nvidia", 600, 10000])
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Add data to list store: liststore.append([False, "xserver-xorg-video-fbdev", "1:0.4.2", "Framebuffer display driver", "nvidia", 400, 10000])
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Add data to list store: liststore.append([False, "xserver-xorg-video-vesa", "1:2.3.1", "Vesa display driver", "nvidia", 400, 10000])
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Last visible column nr: 3
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Activate", gtk.CellRendererToggle(), active=0)
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Check box found: add toggle function
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Activate
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Driver", gtk.CellRendererText(), text=1, weight=5, size=6)
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Driver
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Version", gtk.CellRendererText(), text=2, weight=5, size=6)
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Version
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Create column: gtk.TreeViewColumn("Description", gtk.CellRendererText(), text=3, weight=5, size=6)
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Last column fills treeview: 3
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Column added: Description
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Hide column nr: 4
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Add Liststore to Treeview
09-01-2013 16:58:58 self.treeview.fillTreeview    DEBUG     Scrolled to selected row: 0


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gene@lmdexfce-rc:~$ inxi -F
System:    Host lmdexfce-rc Kernel 3.2.0-4-686-pae i686 (32 bit) Distro LinuxMint 1 debian
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-HT-) cache 1024 KB flags (nx sse sse2 sse3) bmips 5984.71
           Clock Speeds: (1) 2992.358 MHz (2) 2992.358 MHz
Graphics:  Card NVIDIA G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] X.Org 1.12.4 Res: 1680x1050@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer Gallium 0.4 on NV46 GLX Version 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4 Direct Rendering Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller driver snd_intel8x0 at ports ec00 e8c0 BusID: 00:1e.2
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Version 1.0.24
Network:   Card Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express driver tg3 v: 3.121 BusID: 02:00.0
Disks:     HDD Total Size: 542.1GB (-) 1: /dev/sda ST340014AS 40.0GB
           2: USB /dev/sdb STORAGE_DEVICE 2.0GB 3: /dev/sdc HDS721050CLA362 500.1GB
Partition: ID:/ size: 11G used: 4.6G (45%) fs: rootfs ID:/ size: 11G used: 4.6G (45%) fs: ext4
           ID:swap-1 size: 3.33GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes 151 Uptime 15 min Memory 314.0/2278.1MB Runlevel 2 Client Shell inxi 1.4.23
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby zerozero on Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:11 pm

Gene,
did you changed mirrors in the meantime? and updated successfully with the new mirrors? if you run
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what's the output?
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby GeneC on Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:19 pm

AAARGHHH!... :oops:

Of course, I forgot to refresh the repos... :lol:
Noobie mistake. (Well, I AM in my 2nd childhood)..

Yes, nothing was there for DDM to install.
Its running now.
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby zerozero on Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:25 pm

GeneC wrote:I AM in my 2nd childhood
:lol: :lol:
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby GeneC on Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:27 pm

Thats better...

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gene@lmdexfce-rc:~$ inxi -F
System:    Host lmdexfce-rc Kernel 3.2.0-4-686-pae i686 (32 bit) Distro LinuxMint 1 debian
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-HT-) cache 1024 KB flags (nx sse sse2 sse3) bmips 5985.14
           Clock Speeds: (1) 2992.570 MHz (2) 2992.570 MHz
Graphics:  Card NVIDIA G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] X.Org 1.12.4 Res: 1680x1050@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version 2.1.2 NVIDIA 304.48 Direct Rendering Yes


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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby fiver22 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:07 pm

Just wanted to say hello and express my interest in lmde xfce.
I've been creepin' on the thread for a while, watching developments ;)
Thanks for doing this! o/
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby dritzominous on Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:47 pm

@ Schoelje

https://github.com/Schoelje/alacarte/commit/91fac1abfe025570255d18dbc0afe1040291bcf5

I'm so glad that you are living and have procreated.

All of the work I wish I had the time to do/understand how to do, you have done. I love you man. :lol:

- P.S.

I think I drank too much champagne.
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby jjaythomas on Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:55 pm

Now on/trying the 64RC

Display still seems washed out (theme & lighting(?)) but not as bad as the alpha or Beta (32 bit)

My wireless still not working from live (have wired tho) but after install (never connected wired before install either) works right away, DDM list no special wireless driver( :? ). Because using 'Unetbootin USB??

Everything else seems fine (so far :lol: ) including alacarte.

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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby zerozero on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:01 pm

finally installed the rc (amd64), not much to say :D everything went without incidents (installation itself, nvidia drivers, some small tweaks)

re: the choice of oxygen theme and icons (personally i can't complain :lol: i like oxygen) it's my understanding that besides the consistence (cww mentioned this) Schoelje is also avoiding headaches with gtk themes breakages with every minor gnome version bump (well, at least this is what i think he's thinking :lol: :lol: )

dritzominous wrote:All of the work I wish I had the time to do/understand how to do, you have done. I love you man. :lol:
I should quote you for that someday :lol:
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

Postby cwwgateway on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:05 pm

I've installed the 64-bit RC too. That's actually a really good point that I had forgot about - Oxygen is, ironically, one of the only gtk 3 themes that is a binary and also supports xfce. I haven't done much yet besides install, but everything seems fine.

Edit: I completely forgot to mention that this was the first release that successfully installed the VBox Guest Additions by default.

Edit 2: Both xfce4-taskmanager and lxtask are installed by default.
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