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"This can only hurt Linux. Ubuntu is basically trying to force vendor lock in and injecting uncertainty into the market at a time when Linux needs to be focused on being developer friendly. Am I going to port a game to Linux when all those drivers (graphics, mouse/keyboard, etc) might not even be available/stable for the biggest distro? Or if I want to at least have the option of being on more than Ubuntu, I'd have to test on 2-3 completely different systems (Mir, Wayland, X11). This could be horrible if you wanted to bring a CAD program to Linux - you need stability and very high graphics performance, and will likely want to be on Ubuntu LTS and RHEL."

tdockery97 wrote:In light of this announcement it is clear that Clem will now need to make a decision on the future direction of Mint. From my small corner of the world I see three possibilities for Mint:

1. Continue to follow Ubuntu's path.

2. Continue independent development and updating of the current Ubuntu base on into the future regardless of the direction Ubuntu is going.

3. Completely change the base of the Main Editions to something such as Debian.

Whatever the decision, I see very interesting times ahead.

anandrkris wrote:Seriously, am thinking, can Mint start a Kickstarter campain and ramp up their team to deal and support with all the changes that're happening around. Am not against *buntu or anything, just that I want Mint to stand on its own. Really.

Tonttu wrote: I was just thinking today that there should be a Kickstarter to boost Wayland development, like a joint marketing effort with Mint and other distros and various parties spreading the word!

Dry Lips wrote:

Tonttu wrote: I was just thinking today that there should be a Kickstarter to boost Wayland development, like a joint marketing effort with Mint and other distros and various parties spreading the word!

Now, here is an idea!

dee. wrote:I don't know. Wayland is already open source, usually crowdsourcing campaigns offer some kind of rewards for contributions. What could the wayland project offer as rewards other than "we'll maybe get wayland finished faster"?

dee. wrote:Guys, if you really think Wayland should do a kickstarter, why not suggest it to the wayland devs themselves...

Posted Sep 27, 2012 2:14 UTC (Thu) by daniels (subscriber, #16193) [Link]
It's probably fair to point out that the Foundation made an explicit choice to stop raising any more funds for some years, as we had something like $US200k in the bank, and our donors were quite understandably miffed that we weren't really doing anything with their money. That was a few years ago, and now it's just about coming time to resume regular fundraising.

23:14 <stukreit> i suppose the rejection is because it is beyond our scope and definition
23:14 <Bart_Massey> stukreit: I don't think so.
23:14 <+alanc> it seems like if Wayland needed more paid programmers, Intel or someone could hire them
23:15 <Bart_Massey> I'm against it just because it's more Board work than I want to take on at a time when we have other things on our plate.
23:15 <+alanc> much easier for them to add more programmers than us becoming an employer and having to deal with payroll & other HR headaches
23:15 <Bart_Massey> I'm much more concerned with general X.Org Foundation funding, in particular, than funding for a specific project.
23:15 <stukreit> actually, link it to our bylaws: we are not an org about hiring programmers. we're an educational non profit
23:15 <Bart_Massey> Yes, we definitely have a policy of not hiring developers.
23:15 <stukreit> so that's the reason
23:15 <Bart_Massey> (Except students.)
23:16 <stukreit> evoc is not a real hiring. its an internship basically
23:16 <Bart_Massey> But we certainly are an org that could do Wayland fund-raising to be administered by some Wayland group.
23:16 <Bart_Massey> But as I said, if we're going to do fund-raising this year, IMHO it needs to be for plain ol' X.

23:22 <stukreit> I guess wayland might be the wrong vehicle, because it already has much corporate sponsorship
23:22 <stukreit> And does anyone here take seriously the "threat" of Mir?

23:23 <+alanc> the developer of FreeType has raised ~ $15k via crowdfunding, a far cry from a full time developer salary